Having found Julian Sanchez views the multi dimensionality of political thought much as I do was interesting, as it's likely he is unfamiliar with me as I am with him. Al-Muhajabah says he's a thoughtful libertarian and as I've found her judgment trustworthy I decided this morning to look around his site. I found his review of Thomas Sowell's "The Quest for Cosmic Justice" an interesting read.
People who've read more than two days worth of posts here will accurately assume I have little truck with Sowell's political positions, so I have not read the book myself. I will say Mr. Sowell would make an intellectually challenging adversary. He tends to make fairly sound, detailed analyses that are difficult to refute. One can, however, understand his analyses and turn them on the positions he himself holds, while insuring ones own positions are sound enough not to be vulnerable to the same tactics. Anyway, because I haven't read it I can't really say I'm taking issue with Sowell, and because I've commenting on Mr. Sanchez' review I have to assume his take on the book is correct. And though I believe Mr. Sanchez finds himself in accord with the meaning he finds in Mr. Sowell's book, because he is presenting his view of Sowell's ideas rather than his own, I can't take issue with Mr. Sanchez' views either. An interesting balancing act.
From the review:
That "[t]oday�s desirable outcome is often tomorrow�s perverse incentive" is indisputable, though. It's a parallel to the social truism "there are only permanent interests." Laws and rules are not internal to us, they are a part of the environment we respond to. So changing the rules doesn't change our motivation, it merely changes what we must to to achieve our goals. The results of our actions further modify the environment, which change we respond to, et cetera until, like all self modifying structures, the process generates something that was both unpredictable and inevitable.
That "individual differences in economic status, talent, or character…result from the position one is arbitrarily born into" I take strong exception to as regards talent and character. I don't know whether to direct my ire toward Sowell or Sanchez, so I'll leave it at that for the moment.
Onward…
Further points I'd like to make can, I think, be done by quoting the review and asking that you apply the principle expounded in the quote to the Conservative position. I invite you to read the review and judge for yourself if my quotes are taken unfairly out of context.
Divested of the partisan examples and rendered as skeletal principle, Sowell's book would appear to be as great an indictment of the current direction of Conservative action as part Liberal thought.
You wrote:
"I don't think justice has ever been seen as an impartial and equal application of rules, mostly because few people have ever assumed such an application has taken place. Within a given class, perhaps; all royals receive the same treatment and all peons receive the same treatment, but there's never been a fair and impartial application of a set of rules across the board, unless you include the rules by which one differentiates the various classes and applies to it the set of laws specific to it."
Not having read Sowell's book either, i'm inclined to think that he was referring to the understanding of justice in the abstract-ideal sense. Point being that correcting deviations from that abstract-ideal in the real world only requires, well, correcting those deviations (like freeing slaves and vesting them with the same rights everyone else has), not anything more.
I see I'll have to install that "prevent multiple posts" hack. I just double posted at Brad DeLong's blog myself.
Point being that correcting deviations from that abstract-ideal in the real world only requires, well, correcting those deviations (like freeing slaves and vesting them with the same rights everyone else has), not anything more.
Taking your particular example, if you do what you've suggested and nothing more you're only corrected the deviation in an abstract-ideal way. In the real world, there's enforcement and protection required. In the real world a theoretical investment of rights means little in the face of an active opposition to the manifestation of those rights because the slaves will not have the resources to defend their rights themselves.
And that's just one problem, one that would face slaves freed across the millenia. If we get to the specific case of the USofA where a culture developed around the brutalization of ex-slaves, well…
And expanding our reference beyond your example, can you honestly think of any case where the abstract-idea description of a thing or process is an exact match for its real world manifestation?
Taking your particular example, if you do "what you've suggested and nothing more you're only corrected the deviation in an abstract-ideal way. In the real world, there's enforcement and protection required. In the real world a theoretical investment of rights means little in the face of an active opposition to the manifestation of those rights because the slaves will not have the resources to defend their rights themselves."
I agree. I thought it was obvious that 'vesting' ex-slaves with the same rights would mean enforcing/protecting their free exercise to the same extent as everyone else (i.e., not as per jim crow).
"And expanding our reference beyond your example, can you honestly think of any case where the abstract-idea description of a thing or process is an exact match for its real world manifestation?"
I doubt anything real every matches its ideal. But it makes sense to strive for that.
I thought it was obvious that 'vesting' ex-slaves with the same rights would mean enforcing/protecting their free exercise to the same extent as everyone else (i.e., not as per jim crow).
It seems sufficiently unobvious to the right that I feel the need to get specific about it. Even when they are sincere it looks like the idea is, just say things are so and wait for a complaint.