Fortunately (or unfortunately), I saw it too.  Juan was baggering with his attempt to discredit the current Reparations movement.  It was clear he wanted her to denounce the current movement on any terms.

It's amazing people don't factor in the racist climate and actions and in-actions of this country, our government into the whole question of why Black people never recieved Reparations.  Prof. Berry's book is important to document the both the machinations of the U.S. government to undermine that formidable Reparations movement and the size of the movement itself.

And, yes, with those documented descendants and the petitionees from Callie House's movement, there is an imposing and undeniable problem... for Anti-Reparationists.  How can they reconcile the phony arguments about identifying descendants now?  How foolish do Black people feel mimmicking the frames in the White Media?

I'm still trying to how the supposed difficulty in "indentifying" people equates to not paying Reparations.  I've come to pose this pressing moral question (and if you say Mrs. Thernstrom before Berry you know I'm on her good grounds... lol):

Simply put, Reparations for Black people subjected to Segregated [inferior] Schools.  We know Segregation is Slavery's Son.  So all this mystifying of the clear issue at hand (and the clear continuation of the racist machinations against Reparations and any just movement by Black people... COINTELPRO?!) should be seen and viewed from its historical origins.  Apparently, sinister excuses die hard.

juan williams has been a whore for decades...he can't hold a candle to dr. berry intellectually - and he's lucky more people didn't see this. i didn't see it, but have seen enough of both participants to imagine the nature of the discourse. don magic juan williams could never sell enough pimp juice to pull the wool over the doc's eyes. she has been intellectually rigorous and demonstrably committed to her people for as long as anyone can recall. juan williams is but another example of the terrain a pimp must inhabit when the only sucker left in the room does not know he is alone. the doc should have been dealing in cards instead of information...she could have taken his shirt and sold it on e-bay.

I still have it on the PVR. I'm thinking about recording the sound track to mp3, for the book discussion.

Thanks for mentioning what I thought no one else saw (who the hell is watching C-SPAN on Sunday night?).  Juan Williams was annoying, but Prof. Berry handled him just fine and with great humor.  She is one of the people on my "most admired" list, with an unshakable integrity and tremendous credibility.  I was fascinated by the thread she drew linking Callie House to Marcus Garvey, to Malcom and the present-day reparations movement.  Funny how the U.S. refused to entertain House's petitions for compensation to former slaves whose servitude was a matter of record, and now arguments for reparations are attacked as untimely because of the alleged difficulty in identifying who would qualify.  (Juan didn't seem to consider how easily some descendants of those former slaves who were courageous enough to sign House's petition could prove their relationship.)  It's never timely because--even now-- the U.S. refuses to even apologize for enabling, institutionalizing, and profiting from slavery (not that an apology would soothe my soul anyway).  Maybe at one time it might have been possible to have corrected the horrible wrong done former Africans in this country with a pension check of $12/mo, but those days have long gone.  And now Juan is apparently so content he's willing to sweep the whole notion under the rug as an idea whose time never came....