The N.R.A. has lost its mind

Submitted by Prometheus 6 on February 8, 2006 - 10:58am.
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Corporate America is not going to leave itself open to a lawsuit (failure to protect the car that was broken into by the criminal that shot the place up).

Under the bill, if business owners ban guns in cars on workplace parking lots, they could get sued and charged with a third-degree felony, punishable by a maximum five-year prison sentence and a $5,000 fine. The bill has an exception for places like schools, where guns are banned by law.

NRA bill would OK guns in cars at work
A bill being pushed by the NRA to allow people to keep guns in their cars on workplace parking lots faces a tough challenge from the powerful Florida Chamber of Commerce.
BY MARC CAPUTO

TALLAHASSEE - The National Rifle Association is pushing a bill that would penalize Florida employers with prison time and lawsuits if they prohibit people from keeping guns in their cars at workplace parking lots.

But the proposal is facing stiff opposition from a group just as powerful in the state capital as the NRA: Florida's biggest business lobby.

Mark Wilson, a vice president of Florida's Chamber of Commerce, which represents 136,000 businesses, said the proposal, to be voted on today in a House committee, is ''an all-out assault'' on employer-employee relations that intrudes on private property rights.

With other business groups expected to join in, the widespread opposition to the NRA bill sets the stage for a rare power struggle between two of the Legislature's mightiest lobbies. And some political observers predict that, for one of the first times in recent history, the NRA will lose in the Legislature of a state where one of every 49 people has a concealed weapons permit and an estimated six million own firearms.

Bill sponsor Rep. Dennis Baxley, an Ocala Republican, said he filed the legislation to prevent ''back-door gun control.'' In the past two years, he has successfully sponsored bills limiting lawsuits against gun ranges, preventing cops from compiling electronic lists of gun owners and expanding people's rights to use deadly force if they feel threatened outside their homes.

''We just disagree that the business community's private property rights trumps my Second Amendment rights,'' Baxley said, noting he doesn't personally support carrying firearms in the workplace.

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Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on February 8, 2006 - 11:14am.
Generally, I side with the NRA but here they are trespassing on the property rights of others in an effort to constantly outflank the gun-banning government-worshippers on the other side in all arenas. When defending legitimate rights you cannot then destroy others that are just as important. You can't decide how to use somebody else's property on whim - if you can bring a gun against the property owner's expressed wishes then you can set up an RV and live there too.
Submitted by Prometheus 6 on February 8, 2006 - 11:17am.
It's a pretty useless gesture. The exemption for places where guns are forbidden by law just means you have to pass a law forbidding guns. It changes nothing, outflanks no one.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on February 8, 2006 - 3:30pm.
I used to work for Walgreens and was transferred to an east Clevevaland neighborhood that was riddle with crime.  I had to quit because I was not safe going to and from work.  I was subject to more than one attempted car jacking.  Yet it was against policy for me to carry a gun at work or keep one in my car.  Isn't personal protection and persuit of life libererty and happiness something valued in America?
Submitted by Prometheus 6 on February 8, 2006 - 5:43pm.
You want the truth?

Nothing matters in the USofA except the ability to generate wealth. That's what the country was created for, and you better believe it's the economic power of the gun industry, not the moral power of its fans, that cripples effective gun control.

But in the end, the guys that make guns are corporations. You will not see the gun industry help the N.R.A. with this one.
Submitted by ptcruiser on February 8, 2006 - 9:14pm.
Given the incident at the USPS processing center in Goleta, California last week where a former employee shot five postal workers to death I'm not sure that it would be a good idea for employees to be allowed to pack a piece on the job site.  Since I am, however, an American and since the business and purpose of America is about making money, I do see a business opportunity if the Florida Chamber of Commerce prevails in its struggle against the fanatics at the NRA.  An enterprising business person could, if Florida law permitted, set up a series of portable mobile gun lockers that people who feel that they just have to bring a .357 Magnum, 9 millimeter Glock  or even an Uzi to the workplace could rent during their shift.

The gun owner could simply place their gun in a secure locker before passing through the factory gate and be secure in the knowledge that their firearms would be kept sake in their absence. At the end of their shift, they could retrieve their gun and return it to the glove compartment or console of the vehicle.  These gun lockers could be rented by the hour, day, week or month.  Since no insurance company would willingly insure this typew of business, the owners of these mobile gun lockers could be granted the same type of exemption from liability that gun manufacturers have in some states or that supermarket chains have with regard to the use of their shopping carts.

If gun owners become adamant and demand that mobile gun locker owners provide insurance perhaps the NRA can step in and resolve the problem. The NRA, for example, could establish a mobile gun locker owner certification program that would not, of course, require background checks in keeping with the NRA's position on this issue. The NRA could require them to attend an NRA training program as a condition of receiving an NRA certificate certifying their qualifications to serve as owners of mobile gun lockers. Owners who meet the NRA's standards might be eligible for a low cost insurance program that the NRA could underwrite to better assist its members who need to remain close to their guns during their working hours.

There are some unique moneymaking opportunities that could be created if the NRA and its supporters think outside the box. The NRA could actually franchise these operations.  I could see it now: Minutemen Mobile Gun Lockers or Have Guns Will Travel. There is no limit to what can be created if we seize the inherent entrepreneurial capabilities embedded in the NRA's long history of  oppositional defiant behavior.

Hell, think about it for a moment, why don't we consider having guns delivered to people's homes like the way we do pizzas or bottled water.  If you've had a rough day on the forklift and forget to pick up your weapon at the end of the day, don't worry about it.  Have Guns Will Travel can bring your pearl handled Glock to your home within an hour for a small service charge.  The same thing applies if you're going out for a night of two fisted drinking at Hooters.  Minutemen Mobile Gun Lockers could take possession of your .38 Police Special and deliver it to your doorstep after the bars close or in the morning before you leave for work.  There is no limit to what  can be done if we take a more expansive view of the Second Amendment.  In the 1960s, Dupont, the makers of agent orange and napalm,  promised us better living through chemistry. In the 21st Century,  the NRA can show us how true happiness means having a warm gun quickly delivered to your home.
Submitted by GDAWG on February 8, 2006 - 10:35pm.
Let us see: Santa Barbara and Columbine riddle with crime. A recent mass killing in the former! And the latter? Hmmmmmmmm?

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