Rev. Joseph Lowery does not apologize for clear, intentional statements

Submitted by Prometheus 6 on February 8, 2006 - 2:00pm.

As well he should not.

Think Progress won't mind my stealing their bandwidth.

Rev. Joseph Lowery appeared on Tucker Carlson’s show last night to respond to right-wing criticisms that his remarks inappropriately politicized Coretta Scott King’s funeral. Carlson told Lowery his remarks “seemed like bad manners” and were “very uncomfortable.” Lowery stood his ground. Watch it:

 

CARLSON: It’s not hard to hear that [your remarks] and not draw the obvious conclusion that that’s an attack on President Bush, which of course is your right to do, and I think completely fair. But again, it seemed very uncomfortable to say something like that in a funeral with the president right there. It seemed like bad manners.

LOWERY: Well, I don’t think so. I certainly didn’t intend for it to be bad manners. I did intend for it to — to call attention to the fact that Mrs. King spoke truth to power. And here was an opportunity to demonstrate how she spoke truth to power about this war and about all wars.

And I think that, in the context of the faith, out of which the movement grows, we have always opposed war. We’ve always fought poverty. And we base our — our argument on — on the faith, on the fact that Jesus taught us. He identified with the poor. “I was hungry; you didn’t feed me. I was naked; you didn’t clothe me. I was in prison; you didn’t see about me.” He talked about war. He talked about he who lives by the sword.

So I’m comfortable with the fact that I was reflecting on Mrs. King’s tenacity against war, her determination to witness against war and to speak truth to power.

CARLSON: Were you comfortable with President Jimmy Carter`s remarks, which also seemed openly partisan and political? His reference to the domestic spying controversy now surrounding the president and to the federal government`s response to Katrina? Was that an appropriate series of remarks to give at a funeral, do you think?

LOWERY: Well, Mr. Carter is very capable of defending himself.

CARLSON: But what did you think, I`m wondering?

LOWERY: Well, I think that I`m responsible for my remarks and not Mr. Carter`s. I just think that, in speaking truth to power, if there were no fabrications and there were no deceptions, there were no misstatements or errors in fact, then I think that Mr. Carter had a right to say what he feels.

CARLSON: All right. The Reverend Joseph Lowery, joining us by phone from Atlanta tonight.

Comment viewing options

Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes.
Submitted by GDAWG on February 8, 2006 - 7:46pm.
S-C-R-U-M-B-A-G!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Submitted by GDAWG on February 8, 2006 - 7:47pm.
Hey Tucker!  WHERE'S MY DAUGTHER AT???????????????????????
Submitted by ptcruiser on February 8, 2006 - 8:22pm.
I'm glad that we still have folks among us who stand their ground and won't back down.  One of the things that I find amazing about Tucker Carlson's remarks is that Joseph Lowery was actually personally acquainted with Mrs. King and had known her for many, many years. President Bush, on the other hand, had planned a political trip to New Hampshire and canceled at the last minute to attend the funeral. Bush attended her funeral for political reasons, which is okay because there were a lot of folks who probably did and Mrs. King was, to some extent, a political figure. Rev. Lowery's remarks were entirely appropriate. President Bush was not there because he had lost a friend or a comrade.
Submitted by Prometheus 6 on February 8, 2006 - 8:27pm.
GDAWG:

You aight, son?
Submitted by GDAWG on February 8, 2006 - 10:25pm.
Yup. Tucker knows where to go!
Submitted by GDAWG on February 8, 2006 - 10:40pm.
Hmmmmmm? Mexico. Euthanasia. Martin's wife. Lots of research done before she went there. Now, Heavenly Clinic is close by Mexican authorities! Hmmmmmmmmm?
Submitted by Ourstorian on February 9, 2006 - 9:51am.

Fucker Carlson barked up the wrong tree last night. Joseph Lowery has faced down racist gun-toting crackers for more than fiddy years. A bowtie-wearing Bush-fluffing little bitch like Fucker never had a chance.

 

 

Submitted by Mike K (not verified) on February 9, 2006 - 11:18am.

Speaking of Tucker, did you see this?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11145182

CARLSON: Well, wait. Since when was Martin Luther King for affirmative action?

MATTHEWS: I defy you to...

ROSEN: Well, Coretta Scott King came out very strongly over the last 15 years for affirmative action. So there‘s just no way that we‘re going go...

MATTHEWS: Admit it, Tucker, you have no idea what Coretta Scott King‘s position on affirmative action was.

TUCKER: I actually...

MATTHEWS: I don‘t.

CARLSON: Look, I‘m not taking any stand against Coretta Scott King. I‘m merely saying, to say that Martin Luther King endorsed affirmative action is a total crock.

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1292

The exploitation of King's name, the distortion of his teachings for political gain, is an ugly development. The term "affirmative action" did not come into currency until after King's death--but it was King himself, as chair of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, who initiated the first successful national affirmative action campaign: "Operation Breadbasket."

In Atlanta, Philadelphia, Chicago and other cities, King staffers gathered data on the hiring patterns of corporations doing business in black communities, and called on companies to rectify disparities. "At present, SCLC has Operation Breadbasket functioning in some 12 cities, and the results have been remarkable," King wrote (quoted in Testament of Hope, James Washington, ed.), boasting of "800 new and upgraded jobs [and] several covenants with major industries."

King was well aware of the arguments used against affirmative action policies. As far back as 1964, he was writing in Why We Can't Wait: "Whenever the issue of compensatory treatment for the Negro is raised, some of our friends recoil in horror. The Negro should be granted equality, they agree; but he should ask nothing more. On the surface, this appears reasonable, but it is not realistic."

King supported affirmative action-type programs because he never confused the dream with American reality. As he put it, "A society that has done something special against the Negro for hundreds of years must now do something special for the Negro" to compete on a just and equal basis (quoted in Let the Trumpet Sound, by Stephen Oates).

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/2/1/1359/58645

Where Do We Go From Here (1968)

A society that has done something special against the Negro for hundreds of years must now do something special for him, to equip him to compete on a just and equal basis.
If a city has a 30% Negro population, then it is logical to assume that Negroes should have at least 30% of the jobs in any particular company, and jobs in all categories rather than only in menial areas. 

Why We Can't Wait (1964)

No amount of gold could provide an adequate compensation for the exploitation and humiliation of the Negro in America down through the centuries. . . . Yet a price can be placed on unpaid wages. The ancient common law has always provided a remedy for the appropriation of a the labor of one human being by another. This law should be made to apply for American Negroes. The payment should be in the form of a massive program by the government of special, compensatory measures which could be regarded as a settlement in accordance with the accepted practice of common law.

Submitted by GDAWG on February 9, 2006 - 11:31am.
OS, LOL!
Submitted by Mike K (not verified) on February 9, 2006 - 11:37am.
Tucker is just an asshole.
Submitted by ptcruiser on February 9, 2006 - 11:56am.
Let me add something that may be off base but I believe is true. If either Al Gore or John Kerry and their coterie of handlers and suckups had had the balls (is this sexist?) to stand up to dickheads like Tucker Carlson then one of them might be president right now instead of this warmonger who is itching for more and more power everyday.

When Al Gore, for example, was jammed up by certain idiots in the Washington press corps about his use of his office phone to call potential campaign donors his response was so lame and off-the-wall that I felt like kicking him my damn self. He gave some gobbleygook, legalese answer about "no controlling authority blah, blah, blah".  Gore should have just looked straight into the cameras and told those fools that he did it and so what did they expect him to do: take two rolls of quarters out to a pay phone?
Submitted by Ourstorian on February 9, 2006 - 12:18pm.

"Gore should have just looked straight into the cameras and told those fools that he did it and so what did they expect him to do: take two rolls of quarters out to a pay phone?"

The perfect riposte!

 

Submitted by Ourstorian on February 9, 2006 - 3:30pm.

Dems need to take a page from Paul Hackett's playbook. The first four paragraphs 'splain it all.

Submitted by Ourstorian on February 9, 2006 - 4:09pm.

Writer Walter Mosely makes an interesting pitch to create a new "black" voting bloc. What say you black partisans and allies about his proposal?

Submitted by GDAWG on February 9, 2006 - 5:05pm.
Personally, I'm very jaundice about electoral voting in this country as it exist now. I mean, with Florida and Ohio as examples, it just seems to me that having a party of our folks for simple voting along, will not suffice. ON other hand, having the economic wherewithall to facilitate one's message or agenda is clearly, as evident by the state of democracy in this nation now, seems more pragmatic.
Submitted by Prometheus 6 on February 10, 2006 - 7:01am.
Ourstorian:

I didn't know the Walter Mosley piece was there.

I haven't read it as of this very moment, but the brother has depth that surprised me. Being a magazine thing, it's short enough for me to slot it ahead of a significant backlog.
Submitted by ptcruiser on February 10, 2006 - 7:24am.
I liked Mosely's piece so much, although I have some concerns about parts of what he proposes, that I decided to start reading the Nation again. I signed up for a one year subscription on the spot.
Submitted by Ourstorian on February 11, 2006 - 12:33pm.
Mosely is a profound thinker and a great writer. I highly recommend "Always Outnumbered, Always Outgunned." I think it is one of the most important novels written in my lifetime. It was made into an HBO movies starring Laurence Fishburn. Read the book first and then watch the film.

The main character in the book, Socrates Fortlow, is an ex-con who murdered two people in his youth. The novel details his struggles to survive on the outside after serving 27 years of hard time in prison. Without stereotyping or sensationalizing the character's life and experiences, Mosely gives us a rare insight into his efforts to reform and redeem himself. It is a lesson that has broad implications for the black community and the nation as a whole, given the numbers of men and women behind bars (2 million or more). I can't say enough positive things about the book or the man who wrote it. Trust me on this one and get a copy as soon as you can. I guarantee you will come away blown away.

Post new comment

*
*
The content of this field is kept private and will not be shown publicly.

*