A clarification

Submitted by Prometheus 6 on September 27, 2003 - 8:31am.
on Race and Identity

"Where we stand" is an attempt to speak to everyone about race in one post. The specific reason for the attempt is that so many people believe (racial morality) = (treating everyone exactly the same way) that if you really want to be heard you have to at least nod in that direction. I'm really not sure how the wiping out any recognition of individuality accords with the rugged individualist of American myth, but we're being rational here (as opposed to reasonable). This means that the article gives the broad strokes of my viewpoint, and needs follow-ups to get the detail in.Latinopundit, who has joined the Great Movable Type Conspiracy, posted a comment he left on ex-lion tamer that gives me the opportunity to present the first major nuance.

I started blogging out of this when I too was dissatisfied w/ Latino content in the blogosphere. You can check out my new blog at www.latinopundit.com. It will be a more serious attempt at blogging than my previous site at www.latinopundit.blogspot.com, as that was a "test in the waters."

Although, Latino issues will be the bulk of my content initially, I do not feel they will always (be), my main theme. If we look at DailyKos.com, who is a Latino, we see that he does not touch upon the issues of race but, is rather main stream. I believe that (this), is the goal here for "minorities." It is the next step, or "other place," to use the phrase of Prometheus6.org. To slowly leave the realm of race issues and put more of our energies into mainstream issues.

First clarification: mainstream issues are a subset of race issues.

To use an invalid visual metaphor, let's represent the Black issues with a Black circle, Asian American issues with a yellow circle, Amerind issues with a red circle and Caucasian American issues with a pink circle (you see immediately why it's an invalid metaphor, but work with me for a minute). If we lay them out, Venn diagram-style, you'd see there's an overlap in the areas that impact each group:

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The disjointedness of each set is severely exaggerated. Who can say, for instance, that the Iraq occupation is not an issue of concern to Black folks? Or that inflation is irrelevant to Amerinds? If the sets were accurately mapped you'd need a 746" monitor to see the sections specific to each race.

But those sections are there. The problem is people assume Asians, by addressing everything in the yellow circle, invalidate everything in the pink, red and black circles.

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Submitted by r@d@r (not verified) on September 27, 2003 - 9:12am.

i find your metaphor to be reasonably sound. it's also nice to see it graphically rendered. i wish my monitor weren't so crappy.i particularly appreciated your questioning the "group A focuses on issues within sphere A, thereby invalidating [somehow] issues that do not overlap from other spheres" assumption. i think that if we can't find something that resonates with us in every corner of the human condition, we're not looking at ourselves very closely. one of the problems specific to people identified by themselves or by others as 'white', for example, is that it's not a positive description, but rather a description of a lack -- "i identify myself as being NOT of color." this is one of the deepest-running fundamental flaws of the white supremacist paradigm, and is a fairly convenient place to plant the dynamite sticks.i find personally that the more i try to tell myself, or anyone else, that "i am not that", whether "that" is good, bad, or indifferent, the more blurred become the boundaries around that "i". i think the most honest thing i can say is "i am unfamiliar with that", or maybe even "i feel disconnected from that". or perhaps sometimes "i am afraid of that".ahem, shutting up now.

Submitted by P6 (not verified) on September 27, 2003 - 9:35am.

The graphic could be improved. I sliced it out of an MUCH older thing I did before I realized just how inappropriate the visual metaphor was.

Submitted by Natalie Davis (not verified) on September 27, 2003 - 8:08pm.

Inappropriate, perhaps, but it makes the point. Of course, I envision a circle encompassing all of the sections to signify the mutts' and one-racers' sphere.

Submitted by latinopundit (not verified) on September 27, 2003 - 8:56pm.

I can only try and paint my idea mathematically. 1. No matter how big or how small you draw a circle you will always have 360 degrees. 2. The strongest point of gravity is the center. Take your diagram. Look in the center...the black center...where all the colors combine (but, I don't have to explain all that). The further we get away from the center the lighter the colors become. The further we separate. You with me so far?We all connected. You’re red, your black, and your pink mean nothing when I am in my yellow. Same true when you guys in your area. Now, where the areas mix and combine is the hub of the universe. This where we all meet. Some may see it as a clash, I see it as harmony. This is where we all need to meet, where we all need to talk and think from. And then if you want go back to your color (we all want to do that anyway-nothing wrong with it), but as long as we know how to discuss, and think, and act at the center we will be alright. That is what I mean about mainstream. Mainstream is everything that affects everything and everybody. Yes, it is a result of race.