Possibly what the neocons are actually concerned about

by Prometheus 6
December 12, 2003 - 9:06am.
on News

Let's face it: a strong EU would mean there's suddenly three superpowers again (do NOT ignore China)
EU Leaders Divided on New Constitution

By PAUL AMES
The Associated Press
Friday, December 12, 2003; 7:02 AM

BRUSSELS, Belgium – Leaders from 25 nations struggled Friday to overcome deep divisions on a new constitution to settle the balance of power in the European Union as it opens up to new members from the former Communist east.

The talks began with an agreement on a separate deal to boost the bloc's ability to run military operations, including by setting up a EU planning cell at NATO's high command.

Italian Premier Silvio Berlusconi called the defense deal a "fantastic step forward" that would improve relations with the United States.

The Europeans have to agree on a draft constitutional treaty to guide an expanded EU that will be bigger and richer than the United States, generating a quarter of the world's economic output with more than 450 million people.

The charter aims to strengthen cooperation on defense, foreign policy, immigration and other issues to give the European bloc a political voice to match its formidable economic clout.

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Submitted by Brian (not verified) on December 12, 2003 - 4:47pm.

China cannot be considered a superpower by any stretch of the imagination. Perhaps in 20 years, butr not now. China is where the US was in the 1880s.

Submitted by James R MacLean (not verified) on December 12, 2003 - 9:36pm.

I've actually kicked this around a lot with an erudite commentator at my own web site. I'm trying to make the case that there is a cohesive class for whom the EU & the USA both furnish useful intruments of control. The EU, for example, has ten members with a cohesive social contract, industrial policy, and financial apparatus. Another member, the UK, has an enormous pool of connections in the 3rd world, of finance capital, and administrative expertise.The US--when characterized as a global actor--is really a front-office state, a sort of lobotomized confederation of enterprises who are chiefly concerned with attracting investment capital.The neocons, in my opinion, understand this. That is the one big thing they do understand. They have as much loyalty to the USA as you might have towards a pair of socks. This is a bit of a caricature, and I'll readily admit it exaggerates the difference between the USA and EU member states. So, for example, the Anglo-American radical tradition (J.A. Hobson, Henry David Thoreau, the IWW) would be the neocon's real adversary--the latter group would reject the neocons' efforts to turn the nation of the USA into a weapon to wield against against other nations or peoples.As for the EU being a rival superpower--I think it would have to do something about the enabling behavior of its financial centers first.

Submitted by mark safranski (not verified) on December 13, 2003 - 10:11am.

I think the main worry is not that the EU would become a rival superpower in a military sense but that politically the EU will continue the Franco-German elite's trend toward reviving Europe's darker political-economic traditions - anti-democratic, statist, paternalistic, protectionistic, corporatism. This is the evident preference of the French who have attempted to control both the final draft version and the interpretations of constitutional clauses in this direction by issuing last-minute" clarifications" solely in French in order to change the meanings.Europe's history in the last three hundred years does not provide comfort when the proposed EU constution is designed to insulate EU policy makers from democratic accountability of *any* kind - even to elected heads of government to say nothing of European voters.