Teachers doing what parents should, cops doing what teachers should, who does what cops should?

by Prometheus 6
January 3, 2004 - 1:11pm.
on News

Unruly Students Facing Arrest, Not Detention
By SARA RIMER

TOLEDO, Ohio — The 14-year-old girl arrived at school here on Oct. 17 wearing a low-cut midriff top under an unbuttoned sweater. It was a clear violation of the dress code, and school officials gave her a bowling shirt to put on. She refused. Her mother came to the school with an oversize T-shirt. She refused to wear that, too.

"It was real ugly," said the girl, whose mother did not want her to be identified..

It was a standoff. So the city police officer assigned to the school handcuffed the girl, put her in a police car and took her to the detention center at the Lucas County juvenile courthouse. She was booked on a misdemeanor charge and placed in a holding cell for several hours, until her mother, a 34-year-old vending machine technician, got off work and picked her up.

She was one of more than two dozen students in Toledo who were arrested in school in October for offenses like being loud and disruptive, cursing at school officials, shouting at classmates and violating the dress code. They had all violated the city's safe school ordinance.

In cities and suburbs around the country, schools are increasingly sending students into the juvenile justice system for the sort of adolescent misbehavior that used to be handled by school administrators. In Toledo and many other places, the juvenile detention center has become an extension of the principal's office.

School officials say they have little choice.

"The goal is not to put kids out, but to maintain classrooms free of disruptions that make it impossible for teachers to teach and kids to learn," said Jane Bruss, the spokeswoman for the Toledo public schools. "Would we like more alternatives? Yes, but everything has a cost associated with it."

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Submitted by Al-Muhajabah (not verified) on January 3, 2004 - 5:05pm.

I'm confused about one detail in this story. The mother came to the school with the oversize T-shirt, but then apparently she went back to work while the police arrested her daughter? Did the school wait until she was gone before arresting the daughter, or did the situation worsen after the mother was gone? It seems like they ought to have handled the situation while the mother was there so that she didn't have to keep coming back from work repeatedly.

Submitted by mark safranski (not verified) on January 4, 2004 - 5:43pm.

Sadly, quite a few children are beyond their parents authority these days and the law is stepping in because old " in loco parentis " powers of schools no longer exist. If a student refuses to comply and won't leave the premises either, a vice-principal cannot grab the kid by the scruff of the neck and firmly escort them out. Only the police can do that.

Submitted by P6 (not verified) on January 4, 2004 - 10:15pm.

I guess the problem is we are going through a social phased transition. With no one at home (from financial necessity, for the most part), SOMEone has to take responsible for the kids. It would be good if we acknowledge it and do something about it…setting up and funding schools correctly would be a good start.

Submitted by Phelps (not verified) on January 5, 2004 - 12:16am.

I have one question: what was the anonymous "misdemeanor charge?" The "safe school ordinance" they mentioned earlier?This is the insane but predictable result of compulsory education. We are sending children to jail because we won't just send them home.

Submitted by P6 (not verified) on January 5, 2004 - 11:03am.

That's just nuts, Phelps. Compulsory education is the source of our near-universal literacy and hence our technical edge over the rest of the world. We'd do better giving up market economics and the entire idea of ownership than giving up compulsory education.

Submitted by Phelps (not verified) on January 5, 2004 - 12:23pm.

When "near universal literacy" doesn't include high-school seniors who are reading at elementary school levels, then I'll consider that and compulsory education to be a factor in our technical edge. (I'd assess much more of our technical edge to relative wealth and nutrition, along with some genetic advantages.)I've said it before, and it bears repeating -- I was educated in spite of public schooling, not because of it.

Submitted by P6 (not verified) on January 5, 2004 - 5:43pm.

high-school seniors who are reading at elementary school levels

What level do you think they'd be at without compulsory education?

Submitted by Al-Muhajabah (not verified) on January 5, 2004 - 7:32pm.

Phelps, if you think that children are "chattel", then surely you shouldn't have a problem with subjecting them to compulsory education.