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A fundamental errorby Prometheus 6
May 15, 2005 - 2:22pm. on Culture wars | For the Democrats | Onward the Theocracy! | Politics Hey, we got conversation! Three Bad Fingers challenges my conclusion, and I defend here and here. This post is also relevant. In Newsweek, Howard Fineman writes: If there is no last-minute deal, Frist has vowed to set a vote on the nuclear option as soon this week. The "nuclear" part isn't changing the filibuster rule, but a decision by the presiding officer presumably Vice President Dick Cheney, acting in his role of Senate president that only a majority vote is needed to do so. (Normally a two-thirds "supermajority" is required to change Senate rules.) Republicans then will need just 50 votes, since Cheney can break a tie. Thing is, there's no filibuster rule to change. Let's just not use that word "filibuster" for a few minutes. Standing Rules of The Senate The very first of the standing rules of the Senate on debate says the Presiding Officer shall recognize the first Senator to address him (and so must let each and any Senator speak) and no one shall interrupt any Senator without that Senator's permission. As I noted the other day, Senate rules and procedures are not the same things. The procedures are agreements on how the requirements of the rules are to be met. Rules are like a skeleton that establishes the basic form of things, where procedures are the muscle tissue (and, sadly, the fat) of the living system. Our policy disputes are like, "shall we bulk up, shall we trim down, are we basketball or hockey players?" They should not be about, "should we reduce our bone mass?" Anyway, there are rules governing how Senate rules can be changed. It requires two-thirds of voting Senators. Standing Rules of The Senate You see? We don't have a filibuster rule, we have a cloture rule. Understand that there is no judgment involved here. The rule is very explicit...three-fifths (60) for cloture, two thirds (66) to change the rules. And the rules have, indeed, been changed. In 1917, a rule change provided a method to forcibly end debate on the Senate floor...it took a two-thirds majority. In 1975 that was cut back to a three-fifths majority. So it can be done. It just takes two thirds of the Senate to do so. So Senator Frist's "nuclear option" isn't really an option at all. Post new comment |