If thine eye offends thee, pluck it out

by Prometheus 6
May 17, 2005 - 7:52am.
on Education

Quote of note:

Expulsion rates were lowest in preschool classrooms in public schools and Head Start, and highest in faith-affiliated centers, for-profit child care and other community-based child-care settings.

Keep this in mind as you think about school vouchers.

Research Finds a High Rate of Expulsions in Preschool
By TAMAR LEWIN

So what if typical 3-year-olds are just out of diapers, still take a daily nap and can't tie their shoes? They are plenty old enough to be expelled, the first national study of expulsion rates in prekindergarten programs has found.

In fact, preschool children are three times as likely to be expelled as children in kindergarten through 12th grade, according to the new study, by researchers from the Yale Child Study Center.

"No one wants to hear about 3- and 4-year-olds' being expelled from preschool, but it happens rather frequently," said the study's chief author, Walter S. Gilliam.

Although preschool expulsion rates varied widely by state and type of setting, the study found that on average, boys were expelled at 4.5 times the rate of girls, African-Americans at twice the rate of Latinos and Caucasians, and 4-year-olds at 1.5 times the rate of 3-year-olds. Expulsion rates were lowest in preschool classrooms in public schools and Head Start, and highest in faith-affiliated centers, for-profit child care and other community-based child-care settings.

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Submitted by fred (not verified) on May 17, 2005 - 8:46pm.

Wow, that's really interesting.  Since my wife is in the business, I would say I'm not surprised by either the fact that public centers have lower expulsion rates (probably for the same reason that public schools do--for-profit centers can decide whether the money is worth the aggrevation.)  or that of course, boys tend to be the worst (there's a laundry list as long as my arm for why I think this--from natural aggression and peer-group dominance to too much Spiderman on the TV at home.

It's tough to have behavioural problems because it takes up too much time for the caregivers to deal with one disruptive child at the expense of all the others.  Sooner or later you have to cut your losses because other parents come in (or the kids talk about it)--and whether or not their child is closer to satan than heaven, they don't want to know that you have one "bad apple" that is disruptive or violent to their child and their child's socialization. 

That being said, setting up expectations from the outset helps a lot--you might get away with that @#$ at home, but not here... and although we've been that close to telling a parent "it's not going to work" we haven't had to kick anyone out yet.

I would also say that the author was being nice when they said that "parents are too embarrassed" to tell the next center they've been expelled.  It's a job interview.  Everything you touch is golden until proven otherwise.

I don't have any notions about why the racial discrepencies (other than the obvious 'American problem' one)--

Submitted by fred (not verified) on May 17, 2005 - 8:54pm.

I Just realized that I commented sort of orthaganally  (orthoganally?) to your thesis.  OTOH, it might be just as important for public schools to have more leeway when it comes to dealing with disruptions in the classroom.  I don't have the answer for that, either--well, I do, it's societal, and it has something to do with relieving the pressures that require parents to spend time away from their families.

I agree, tho, with the idea that having the ability to "randomly" expel students without some pre-agreed guidelines is a nice entree for abuse (of expulsion).  I would hope that any good preschool/child care has a clearly spelled out policy and due process. 

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