Quite an interesting twist

by Prometheus 6
May 20, 2005 - 1:19pm.
on Economics | Race and Identity

Quote of note:

Fox was onto something, however botched his message. We are teaching our children to be very picky about work, with inflated notions of its worth. One day, our children just might get picked off by the global economy, beaten out by the children of immigrants. We might ironically discover that children who started at the bottom and grew up knowing that work was not an option actually had a head start in life.

Vicente Fox's half-truth

By Derrick Z. Jackson  |  May 20, 2005

ON STATISTICS alone, it was ludicrous for President Vicente Fox of Mexico to say that Mexicans do the menial work in America ''that not even blacks want to do."

If Fox were to tool around our cities and rural regions he would discover that 26 percent of African-American men and 34 percent of African-American women worked at poverty-level wages in 2003, according to the ''State of Working America, 2004-2005," published by the progressive Economic Policy Institute.

That is not as stunning as the 36 percent of Latino men and the 46 percent of Latina women who work in poverty. But you can still find a whole lot of black women cleaning hotel toilets and black men digging ditches.

What would have been much more accurate would have been, ''There's no doubt that Mexican men and women do the work white men won't do." Only 15 percent of white men work at poverty wages (while 26 percent of white women do so).

But that is not the biggest point of the Fox flap. This notion that Mexicans do the work that Americans don't should bother us at several levels. One is that Americans -- all of us -- have to admit that with our overall wealth, especially when compared to nations like Mexico, we have an enigmatic sense of entitlement.

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Submitted by EG on May 20, 2005 - 6:57pm.

And America is any different than the Europeans in this regard?

Submitted by ConPermiso on May 20, 2005 - 7:38pm.

i read about a study somewhere...two researchers from New York universities decided to take a look at hiring practices in Red Hook, a rough-and-tumble neighborhood in brooklyn.  it turns out that although local Blacks applied in large numbers for the physical labor type jobs, employers preferred to hire immigrants or Blacks who did not live in the neighborhood.  it seems that the employers had the idea that the local Blacks were 'no-good', but that Blacks from further away escaped this character assassination. 

i can attest to this personally; i had to work three jobs last summer to make ends meet, and one of them was UPS.  i came by three times for interviews, and each time i was there i watched equal numbers of black and white applicants filling out the forms.  lo and behold, the first day of training there was only me and this big kid from Alabama who made the cut.  the rest were all local white kids.   i remember thinking that although UPS is fairly difficult work, there's NO way that black people couldn't do it.  after all, most of the employees of UPS i remember from NYC were black or hispanic.

i say all this because i'm witnessing another manifestation of the 'personal responsibility' rhetoric arising around Vicente Fox's comments.  i think it's always important to remember that a black kid can apply for all the jobs in the world - but it only takes one cracker bigot to keep him from getting a job.

Submitted by Prometheus 6 on May 20, 2005 - 8:53pm.

i say all this because i'm witnessing another manifestation of the 'personal responsibility' rhetoric arising around Vicente Fox's comments.

Yup. We got a comment to that effect around here already.

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