I don't even know if I should mention this

Submitted by Prometheus 6 on July 20, 2005 - 7:20am.
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Blacktown.net

EXPOSING THE DAMAGE THAT 1970's WOMEN'S LIBERATION HAS DONE TO THE BLACK COMMUNITY...

EXPOSING HOW BLACK FEMINISTS HAVE FAILED TO LEAD THE BLACK RACE ANYPLACE...

EXPOSING THE FAILURE OF BLACK LEADERSHIP...
(LIKE BILL COSBY!)

REMINDING BLACK MEN THAT IT'S TIME TO JOIN THE GROWING MEN'S MOVEMENT...

WE ARE THE ONLY BLACK ORGANIZATION THAT EXPOSES AND OPPOSES LESBIAN FEMINISM WITCHCRAFT!!

Deeply ignorant.

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Submitted by Waveflux (not verified) on July 20, 2005 - 11:44am.

You forgot the money quote from the next page: TEACHING THE BLACKMAN HOW TO CLAIM, TAME, TRAIN, AND DOMINATE THE BLACKWOMAN TO MAKE HER HIS QUEEN ONCE AGAIN!! Sigh...

Submitted by Ourstorian on July 20, 2005 - 12:38pm.

I checked out a few pages of this crappy site and then sent them an email lambasting them for their divisive and misogynistic rhetoric. I don't think anything I said could possibly penetrate the deep layers of pathology that infects the authors of this web site. But I couldn't let that evil shit stand without comment.

Submitted by Prometheus 6 on July 20, 2005 - 2:04pm.

You forgot the money quote from the next page

You went to the next page?? You brothers got heart.

Submitted by cnulan on July 20, 2005 - 2:59pm.

must be how he says what he says..., frankly, I get the author's rough sense of humor and find the satire tremendously amusing.

Submitted by Prometheus 6 on July 20, 2005 - 3:26pm.

I quote my boy Art McGee:

I know that fool. I remember his punk-bitch ass [apologies to the ladies for the gendered nature of the insult--Art] from back in the day in other Afrocentric forums. That psychotic bastard is one of the most pure examples of counter-revolutionary demagoguery I have ever seen. It really doesn't get much worse.

 

Submitted by cnulan on July 20, 2005 - 4:29pm.

Art joined the Kali Tal amen chorus in taking me to the sexist woodshed - labelling me "semiotically sexist" - for calling the eliminative materialist philosopher Patricia Churchland "sour-faced". Since that time, Churchland has upgraded her homepage image, but you better believe that the mugshot she had up there previously made her look like she'd been sucking lemons for days. What Art would've sworn as misogyny gone wild was really nothing other than a simple and un-nuanced statement of opinion.

As I continue to delve into Faheem Akuta's iconographic satire - I'm finding myself hard pressed to consider this either psychotic or truly vicious considering the really hardcore misogyny surfacing with increasing frequency from across the autistic spectrum. I mean, really dough, who is it - demographically - that's labelling boys ADD/ADHD or "oppositional defiant" and channelling them respectively toward ritalin and the criminal justice system?

Frankly, the question of gendered neuropolitical variation is an interesting and open-ended one - to me at least - considering the disproportionate focus of dopaminergic propaganda on the female psyche..,

A casual survey of magazines at your nearest newstand, or commercials during your favorite teevee program, would easily bear out my contention that far more diligent effort goes into controlling the female psyche than the male.

Submitted by cnulan on July 20, 2005 - 4:33pm.

I interpret Akuta to be saying exactly what ourstorian said.

Submitted by Prometheus 6 on July 20, 2005 - 4:43pm.

Really? Why don't you scroll up the page and see if Ourstorian interprets that entity to be saying exactly what Ourstorian said?

You need to stop interpreting and read. 

Submitted by cnulan on July 20, 2005 - 5:10pm.

Yes, really.

It was precisely because of the above rhetorical objection that I found the critical parallels interesting. The substance of their respective critiques appears none-the-less identical to me.

Submitted by Prometheus 6 on July 20, 2005 - 5:47pm.

CN, there's an old Taoist saying:

When the wrong man uses the right means, the right means works the wrong way.

That site is an excellent example of the principle. And it's also why I never discuss my personal praxis.

 

Submitted by cnulan on July 20, 2005 - 5:55pm.

I am not surprised at all to see this? Frankly I would've been shocked had it not been in the mix.

Akuta addresses even more subtle phenomena, such as these.

100 or more pages in, it's clear that this is not satire after all, but something more along the lines of digital folk art. Akuta is doing the best he can - with what he has - to articulate a fairly complicated neuropolitical stance. He strikes me as being like a ghetto Ekman without any fundamental lucky break insights into the subliminal nature of what he's obsessing over.

Submitted by cnulan on July 20, 2005 - 6:02pm.

blacktown.net is one of the more fascinating links you've posted during my sojourn..., I'll be studying this cat's hypergraphic obsessing for some time to come..,

Submitted by Prometheus 6 on July 20, 2005 - 6:07pm.

He strikes me as being like a ghetto Ekman without any fundamental lucky break insights into the subliminal nature of what he's obsessing over.

Strikes me like someone whose REALLY CONFUSED AND UPSET OVER the inability to get laid.

Glad you enjoy it, but do me a favor and don't bring none of that shit over here.  

Submitted by cnulan on July 20, 2005 - 6:10pm.

The website was constructed using a trial version of claris homepage and it appears that it can be downloaded in its entirety.., I'm pulling down a copy right now.

Genuine artifacts from the edge are the shizznit. Almost like stumbling upon a Hellraiser puzzle box at the flea market.., oh, and let the record show, you brought this oddity to show-and-tell, not me, and I suspect you had peeped it just a little bit before succumbing to the impulse to share. (:

Submitted by Prometheus 6 on July 20, 2005 - 6:20pm.

Just the front page. After I vomited, I bitched about it here.

Yes, I brought it. No different than any of the other things dangerous to the Black community I've written about. 

Submitted by cnulan on July 20, 2005 - 6:43pm.

What, in your estimation, makes a sincere - albeit fringe -interpretation dangerous?

Infinitely more dangerous - in my estimation - are the evasion compliant sociopathic rationalizations of the situation facing the community.

I find Akuta's exagerated sense of urgency and supersaturated presentation refreshingly sincere.

Submitted by cnulan on July 20, 2005 - 6:48pm.

Don't hear much dancehall music in top 40 rotation either...,

To me it looks a whole lot like the kind of stuff you'd see in the afro-caribbean, or afro-latin world. Is that why American blacks are kept in rather careful sequestration from those types of supersaturated cultural productions?

Submitted by Prometheus 6 on July 20, 2005 - 6:54pm.

I find Akuta's exagerated sense of urgency and supersaturated presentation refreshingly sincere.

I find his mysogyny unacceptable. 

You're disappointing the fuckout of me.

Submitted by cnulan on July 20, 2005 - 7:14pm.

I find his mysogyny unacceptable.

Having only read the first page, the rest came to you via Art and telepathy?

You're disappointing the fuckout of me.

I didn't say I agree with him, but since you're unwilling or unable to articulate your objection beyond the most superficial level, I guess that makes us even.

Submitted by Prometheus 6 on July 20, 2005 - 7:18pm.

Having only read the first page

Yeah, that was quite enough. It's like smelling sour milk. Don't have to drink it to know it tastes foul.

Submitted by cnulan on July 20, 2005 - 8:11pm.

Yeah, that was quite enough. It's like smelling sour milk. Don't have to drink it to know it tastes foul.

I'm glad my forbears had the constitutional fortitude required to sport death with rotten milk and discover the ineluctable delights of yogurt and cheese....,

Submitted by Prometheus 6 on July 21, 2005 - 4:53am.

That site is smegma, not cheese.

Beating down half the population is unacceptable...it just doesn't work. Long term, the fool isn't a problem. He'll grow up or fail to reproduce.

Submitted by MAYOR on July 21, 2005 - 8:17am.

BE A MAN ABOUT IT

 NEVER SEND A BOY, NOR A WOMAN, TO DO A MAN'S JOB!!!

 

Submitted by Prometheus 6 on July 21, 2005 - 8:59am.

You don't understand, do you?

All your comments are now moderated. I will not release anything I feel will pollute my space. You're not banned because you probably mean well. 

Submitted by MAYOR on July 21, 2005 - 9:27am.

Blacktown has no intent upon "polluting your space". I just thought that I would clarify that blacktown.net is not about "hate" but only about asserting the rights of black men to have a "men's movement" just like women had their Women’s Liberation social movement to improve their status in life. …Is this difficult to understand!? It is amazing the opposition that blackmen/blacktown receives to our humble and noble effort to get the ScareCrow back onto his feet to do battle with the demonic forces of lesbian Feminist Witchcraft. Everyone wants to keep the sleeping giant (the Blackman) from awakening. Because of the Internet and inexpensive computers abounding, blacks have totally run out of excuses for their failure and lack of understanding. Blacks cannot remain in oblivion and immune from criticism forever. Be blessed…

Submitted by cnulan on July 21, 2005 - 9:49am.

Ostracism is at the root of all of this. Interesting indeed how essential a component of your own praxis this is. I don't think it would be a stretch to call it revelatory. When anyone does this, you can be assured that they don't mean well. Matter of fact, it's a helluva lot worse than stepping on corns.

Submitted by Prometheus 6 on July 21, 2005 - 10:09am.

I don't think it would be a stretch to call it revelatory.

Good. 

Refusing to intrude on your space does NOT mean I have to let you trample all over mine.

Yes, that is an essential part of my praxis.  Keeping my own space as mine it the reason I can let you keep your space as yours. If you think that means I mean no good, it's an opinion you're free to act on.

Submitted by Prometheus 6 on July 21, 2005 - 10:12am.

Refusing to intrude on your space does NOT mean I have to let you trample all over mine.

You DO understand that, right? It really, really is central to me.

Submitted by cnulan on July 21, 2005 - 10:59am.

Refusing to intrude on your space does NOT mean I have to let you trample all over mine.

Sho's, you right, and water is wet....,

So far as I know, Akuta was tending to his own atypical and fervently expressed convictions, not intruding on your space in any way whatsoever at the moment you chose to hold his expressions up for ridicule. When he got about the binnis of responding, you denied him that privilege. While that's certainly your perogative, it doesn't bode well for shedding light on his "well meaning" world view.

If you think that means I mean no good, it's an opinion you're free to act on.

In pointing out to you the revelatory contrast between what you said and what you did, my act was complete. What some schizophrenics see between expressions, I brought to your attention in the space between your words.

Submitted by Prometheus 6 on July 21, 2005 - 11:09am.

Blacktown has no intent upon "polluting your space". I just thought that I would clarify that blacktown.net is not about "hate" but only about asserting the rights of black men to have a "men's movement" just like women had their Women’s Liberation social movement to improve their status in life. …Is this difficult to understand!?

 

You picked a singularly foolish way to do it. By making the demonizing and domination of Black women so prominent a part of your agenda, you repulse anyone who doesn't hate women. That's most of us...so many people that there won't be enough of you left to make any difference at all. And if you tuck it down inside your agenda, most will feel they've been lied to...two strikes for the price of one.

And after reading my response I found your "comment" a bit disrespectful.

You don't help. 

Submitted by Prometheus 6 on July 21, 2005 - 11:11am.

I didn't deny him the right to respond. I put him in moderation mode because based on what I've seen I don't trust him to operate within the parameters I've established for the site.

Don't get it twisted. 

Submitted by Ourstorian on July 21, 2005 - 11:18am.

Mayor wrote: "Is this difficult to understand!? It is amazing the opposition that blackmen/blacktown receives to our humble and noble effort to get the ScareCrow back onto his feet to do battle with the demonic forces of lesbian Feminist Witchcraft. Everyone wants to keep the sleeping giant (the Blackman) from awakening."

Ain't nothing to understand. It's bullshit, plain and simple... Bullshit piled high and deep. It ain't satire, it's the frothing at the mouth of some rabid "boys" who don't have a clue that "black" manhood, as well as every other aspect of black life, is defined by the status (health, education, etc) of black women. You reduce women to bitches and hoes so you "dawgs" can stand up on your hind legs. It proves to me that the battle you need to fight is not with feminism, but with your own lack of masculine identity. How pitiful, these little boys must be to find evil lurking within the souls of their grandmothers, mothers, wives, girlfriends, sisters and daughters. But then again, how much easier it is to beat down a woman like a dawg than confront white supremacy like a Man.

Submitted by cnulan on July 21, 2005 - 11:41am.

How pitiful, these little boys must be to find evil lurking within the souls of their grandmothers, mothers, wives, girlfriends, sisters and daughters.

Which part of this have women abstained from?

I hope you'll excuse me for a moment, I have to take 50 or so of my wife's back issues of Elle Decor, Essence, Vogue, Renovation Style and Spaces out to the recycle box before the truck comes along to pick it up this morning. Then it's back to my neverending battles with capitalist supreezy, because you see, it's expensive as hell to maintain my womenfolk at the standard to which they've grown very accustomed.

Submitted by Prometheus 6 on July 21, 2005 - 12:20pm.

You could always give up women.

Submitted by Prometheus 6 on July 21, 2005 - 12:30pm.

Sorry son, you got to come better than ignorant sounding rants to get air time on this site.

Submitted by Ourstorian on July 21, 2005 - 3:14pm.

cnulan said: "Which part of this have women abstained from?"

Which part of this have men abstained from?

I suppose you have no "boy toys"? No flat screens, stereos, palm pilots, video, digital, electronic whatevers? Nowhere in my comments about primitive accumulation have I ever raised the issue of gender. Conspicuous consumption is an equal opportunity affliction. On your way back from the the recycle box after tossing your wife's magazines, perhaps you'll pass her heading to it with an armload of Maxims, Hustlers, Penthouses, etc.

Submitted by cnulan on July 21, 2005 - 4:31pm.

Conspicuous consumption is an equal opportunity affliction.

Hardly...,

but don't take my word for it, please simply consider the source.

Nearly everything I personally own serves in my joint activities of industry and exploit. If you call guns "boy toys" then I'm guilty as speculatively charged. Outside of my utilitarian collection of black steel, I've got lots of computers, each of which has some economic purpose. I don't own a single magazine and I own no pornography. I do have an extensive book collection with several works of fiction interspersed in the mass, and I have a modest workshop.

But enough about me.., if we are to interrogate the peacock/peahen spectacle of the barbarian culture in which we're embedded, it would be naive in the extreme to exclude the role of gender in the architecture of cultural governance.

The point I made upthread;

Frankly, the question of gendered neuropolitical variation is an interesting and open-ended one - to me at least - considering the disproportionate focus of dopaminergic propaganda on the female psyche..,

A casual survey of magazines at your nearest newstand, or commercials during your favorite teevee program, would easily bear out my contention that far more diligent effort goes into controlling the female psyche than the male.

Can be investigated easily enough. I think it begs interesting questions concerning the role of gender in the governance and maintenance of dopamine addiction hegemony (DAH)(for discussion's sake, assume that DAH overlaps with conspicuously consuming barbarian culture) My disprovable theory is that a disproportionate amount of effort goes into propagandizing the female psyche. Starting from Chomsky and Herman's propaganda model, which doesn't really touch on gender at all, but mechanically explains the role of propaganda in governance - I think some very interesting insights could be gleaned from data showing exactly where the bulk of hypnotic influence is focused.

A big part of what I see in the blacktown.net site, is a very energetic reaction to these observable phenomena, and a very clumsy attempt to articulate the underlying question(s).

Submitted by Prometheus 6 on July 21, 2005 - 5:05pm.

I see a young man that has no business trying to teach. I see broad insults to sisters. I see an absolute asshole talking about dominating.

Remember? To DW: NO to domination.

To YOU: No to domination. Remember?

Non-starter. Postulate. Again, it repulses so many people that those who are drawn by such rhetoric are a powerless abberation.

Submitted by cnulan on July 21, 2005 - 7:53pm.

P6 your critique falls all to pieces in the routine context of mainstream media negroganda. Turn on any top 40 rotation on the radio or Buckwheat Entertainment Television and you know good and well that you will be bombarded with more naked misogyny in 5 minutes than Akuta has mustered in his entire digital life. Moreover, it won't be contextualized or even remotely pretend to convey a point of view other than abject commercialized contempt. Oh, and those motherfuckers make no bones about being "well meaning", they're just getting paid and memetically programming myriads of DAH duppies in the process.

Murkans of all stripes and genders eat that minstrel effluvium up like it was manna from heaven - and the perpetrators are lionized from coast-to-coast. How many DAH duppies squeal like little pigs caught under a gate in response to blacktown.net, and yet would without a second thought, moment's hesitation, or the slightest sign of discomfort, instantly "shake that ass" and simultaneously subvocalize some truly wack shit like Pavlov's dogs whenever the beat drops?

Who then is really powerless and aberrant?

Like Pavlov's dogs..., imagining the exercise of non-existant consciousness and free will that was sapped before it could ever manifest itself. These are not potential political allies with a set of shared interests, but instead just powerless, ineffectual enthralled duppies as hypnotically addicted as it is humanly possible to be.

the Hitler ad is a nice touch btw

Submitted by Prometheus 6 on July 21, 2005 - 8:17pm.

Akuta isn't welcome. He becomes less welcome with every defense...and I'm on the verge of asking you not to comment on anything you haven't thoroughly explored on Vision Circle. The impact on your traffic will convince you I'm right about this mysogyny repels.

I am not the mainstream media. Mysogyny is not allowed here.

End of story.