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Those women unfortunate enough to be born in South Dakota will just be shit out of luckSubmitted by Prometheus 6 on February 22, 2006 - 9:25am.
on Culture wars | Health Quote of note:
Vote Due on South Dakota Bill Banning Nearly All Abortions PIERRE, S.D., Feb. 21 — Lawmakers here are preparing to vote on a bill that would outlaw nearly all abortions in South Dakota, a measure that could become the most sweeping ban approved by any state in more than a decade, those on both sides of the abortion debate say. If the bill passes a narrowly divided Senate in a vote expected on Wednesday, and is signed by Gov. Michael Rounds, a Republican who opposes abortion, advocates of abortion rights have pledged to challenge it in court immediately — and that is precisely what the bill's supporters have in mind. Optimistic about the recent changes on the United States Supreme Court, some abortion opponents say they have new hope that a court fight over a ban here could lead to the overturning of Roe v. Wade, the 1973 decision that made abortion legal around the country. "I'm convinced that the timing is right for this," said State Representative Roger Hunt, a Republican who has sponsored the bill, noting the appointments of Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. and Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr. to the court. "The strong possibility of a third appointee sometime soon makes this all very real and very viable," Mr. Hunt added, a reference to conjecture that Justice John Paul Stevens, 85, might soon retire. "I think it will all culminate at the right time." Supporters of the bill, which has already passed the House and a Senate committee, said they sensed encouraging signs from the Supreme Court, including Tuesday's announcement that the justices will hear a challenge to a federal law prohibiting one abortion procedure. Check this out. New York City is the Abortion capital of the US. But only 7% of abortions are performed on "out of towners." Therefore, Black and Hispanic women predominate in the data of those who undergo this procedure, electively. Do you think a Black politician in NYC, OR elsewhere for that matter, using the same data, would have the balls to propose such a measure?
Do you think a Black politician in NYC, OR elsewhere for that matter, using the same data, would have the balls to propose such a measure? Seriously, it just comes down to "the blessings of liberty." Politicians aren't the ones who see the need for these abortions. The individual women are, and it's not even possible to know enough about their lives to legitimately override them. I can't see a valid reason to gainsay their judgement. I dunno if elective abortion, as a method of contraception, as it is practice now predominantly, in the US, could be consider a "blessing of Liberty", in light of the wide availability of contraceptive measures for pregnancy prevention. I mean it gets down to laziness and the lack of initiative, to a large extent in my opinion and a dangerous degree of moral hypocrisy. It is well known that Black Americans overwhelmingly do not favor abortions on demand except in the case of rape and to save the life of the mother, yet our women undergo or have undergone well over 350,000 elective abortions per year for the last decade or more. At some point we wll have to address this matter forth rightly. And I could less what coservatives or liberal have to say to the matter. My concern is how to remedy the moral conundrum we find ourselves in now.
Okay.
Sounds like what's well known is wrong. The issue, though, is that each of those women made a personal choice that I can't see as anyone's business but hers. Can you convince me that I should have input into the life decisions of people I don't know? Well for me, the choice ta women make to have an abortion does not occur in a vacuum. therefore, it goes that it is not her personal choice because she is making a choice for the baby, the father of the child, the presumed grandparents, and many others too numerous to address here.
Second, at some point, personal responsibilty have to gravitate upwards to a modicum of moral concisousness in this matter. One can not simply abort a baby because it is convenient, when, to begin with, in this country, there's a plethora of preventative pregnancy choices, to the extent, that it makes a mockery of the notion of "Personal Choice" for an abortion on demand, for convenience sake in light of these realities.
Finally, I understand the political choices that are brought to bear on women in our community that would put many in serious marginal socioeconomic circumstances that would make child bearing unenticing on one hand, and then, weirdly, serves a negative eugenic prescription on the other hand for America's perennally despised "others." A off the radar final solution of sorts, as it relates to the latter. So, in the end, IT IS ALL of our concern on many levels. As fathers, husbands, grandfathers, uncles, cousins, etc. You name it!
therefore, it goes that it is not her personal choice because she is making a choice for the baby, the father of the child, the presumed grandparents, and many others too numerous to address here. That they have an opinion or interest doesn't men they have a choice.The father can take steps to prevent pregnancy too, you know, and grandparents...especially grandparent of someone who doesn't exist yet...are shit out of luc. Anyone that isn't going to raise the kid is shit out of luck. a negative eugenic prescription on the other hand for America's perennally despised "others." A off the radar final solution of sorts, as it relates to the latter.Population is increasing, so that's objectively wrong. The last I check out Black Birth natality reports, the population was not increasing to any significant degree compared to say nonhispanic Whites or Hispanics. And once you teased out the data for newly arrived Blacks from Africa and the Caribbean, the data show a decline especially in those Black Americans of middle and upper economic status. It seems these groups especially the latter are not having enough children too even replace them selves.So there!
Oh yes,pardon me but there is mounting evidence tthat reflect the extent to which African American grandparents are now raising second generation or their kids kids.
I will lnk some data later.
I still see no reason to impose my will on any woman that chooses to have an abortion.
Why is my judgement about any given abortion so much better than that of the woman making the choice? What are the conditions that allow me to override a woman's life choices...and I warn you, I'll be reflecting them back at you. Abortion Its not about you imposing "your will" on a women's decision to have an abortion. I look at it laike this. You can't say you are against the death penalty but for abortion. In each instance, a human like is, literally, snuffed out. In these regards, they are, in my opinion, moral equivalents. So how do you reconcile these contradictory value strains? First, in today's world, at least in the US, there are many options to "prevent pregnancy", so as to make the necessity for an elective abortion for contraceptive purposes, alone, would be rare event. Second, as in all instance of human endeavers some measure of restraint is required even as it relates to "liberty." I mean, you can't have people going around summarily executing folks, or say, camping out on someone's land or in their home because you are "at liberty" to do so. Or drive 150 miles epr hour on a city street without experiecing some form of consequence be it a murderous wreck or jailing. Therefore, in my opinion, even in the instance of abortions, there must be some measure of MORAL restraint. They would include, as examples, the proper use of pregancy prevention measures, abstinence outside of marriage, etc....... Please do not confuse me with the nazi-like right wing nuts here in the US. My take on these matters of birth politics has a more nationalistic or self interest flavor, than anything else. Oh yes. Black birth figures from the CDC: 2004-576,105 2003-576,003 2002-578,335 2001-589,917 2000-604,346 1990-661,701 Now, this data, taken with the data pointing out the extent of which Black women undergo abortions, has a tremedous sociopolitical impact. For example, people are wondering why Hisplanics are becoming the majority minority. That is, more specifically, how, with decreasing population paprameters, will Blacks be effected by the meting out of political spoils, when out numbered, in the future if these trends continue? Abortion Its not about you imposing "your will" on a women's decision to have an abortion.Yes, it is. Everything you say may be true...obviously I'm responding too fast to have verified or denied anything you just wrote. But if a woman decides she is going to have an abortion, my preventing that would impose my will on her, it would supercede her own understanding of her life. That's not an argument, it's a tautology. You can't say you are against the death penalty but for abortion. In each instance, a human like is, literally, snuffed out. In these regards, they are, in my opinion, moral equivalents. So how do you reconcile these contradictory value strains?Is an apple an apple tree? My position is, it's not alive until it can survive disconnected. The data is from the CDC's website, more specifically the Center for the National Health Statistics-Birth data / Natality reports.And again I don't see how your will is imposed on a women's decision to have an abortion. My point is this, in todays world, at least in the US, with having at one's disposal for pregnancy prevention, having an unplanned pregnancy to the extent in which abortion is practiced on Black women, is ridiculous. Are you telling me that our women are so "undisciplined" when it comes to the use of pregancy prevention measures, that to make up for this undiscipline character, abortion on the demend for contraceptive purposes is then required. I think its time we have to move beyond this moral quagmire.
Ultimately, an apple will evolve into a tree, if it is allowed to do so. Otherwise, No apple equal no future trees or apples.
Ultimately, an apple will evolve into a tree, if it is allowed to do so.Until then, the apple is not a tree. The point is, calling an apple an apple tree is the same as calling abortion capital punishment. It's like burning a forest vs. roasting chestnuts. And I still have no reason to assume my judgement about a woman's life and choices should override her own. That overrides everything anyway. Okay. Got a meeting to attend. later.
Netherlands ponders forced abortions for blacks..., my views on abortion mark me as apostate within the Orthodox church, but then, I would've been considered a warlock during the centuries during which the Catholic Church battled abortifacient midwifery in the interests of feudal force vectors. Back in the day, a profligate peasantry meant greater human chattel wealth. Nowadays, given the net energy situation in the U.S. and elsewhere, and the lack of people powered rural agrarian knowhow (the rural agrarian populace is not being impacted by these abortions) seems to me that a few less non-productive city folk drawing down on the planetary teat is not such a bad thing after all....,
The Less, the better maybe okay, but, again, there is something called pregnancy prevention and its methods are widely available.
I just don't understand ho wone could be anti-death penalty but for abortions on demand outside of rape, incest, and to save the life of the mother. And argue that if the life in question cannot care live by itself then its okay to abort it. I mean we could carry that argument into the killing off the infirmed, the blind, the cripple, and the crazy, to name but a few.
Demand destruction gonna happen by any of a hellish variety of means available and necessary. To the extent that we fail to maximize our individual and communitarian utility - we will be in the crosshairs of this winnowing apocalypse. Seems to me that the only forms of leadership worth emulating in these evolutionarily most interesting times - are those forms which consciously engage the Malthusian threshing matrix very obviously being erected all around us. Excellent on all points! Now we're getting somewhere.
I just don't understand ho wone could be anti-death penalty but for abortions on demand outside of rape, incest, and to save the life of the mother.Those exceptions are being denied. That is what I'm against. Independant of the abortion issue, I am supporting the same freedom of choice I want in every area of my life to everyone else. Are there life decisions YOU must face that you are willing to cede control of to the government? How about the Religious Right? And argue that if the life in question cannot care live by itself then its okay to abort it.We do not share the assumption thatthere is a life in question in all cases. done deal fellaz..., nearly all abortions have been legislatively banned in rural agrarian south dakota. Justice Alito, you may now start your engine....., As to the south dakota legislative action today I'm of the opinion that to a large extent, recent and increasantly, white resentment of on demand abortion is more intuned with my fear of on demand destruction of Blacks, or annilization, as per CNulan, than with the moral imperatives entailed. That is, in light of the seeming increase in the nonwhite populace in the US, and its future implications here, hs generated an under radar movement oamong white national leaders to address this matter on all fronts. And in this equation, the weigh of this debate is heavily in favor of the extinction mode and not the moral imperative, in my opinion. The moral imperative gets more public play because it can obfuscate the extinction imperative and put a nice righteous face on efforts to maintain white dominance. Its as if they are afriad to admit it punblically. Some folks are not too timid though. Take Ben Wattenberg and his book the Birth Dearth, which largely addressed the declining birth rate of whites or "westerners", and Nicholas Eberstat in his writings in the WSJ hemming and hawing against the Black birth rates ( in the face if AIDS/ Malaria/ TB etc.) compared to whites or nonafricans, to put it mildly. These are two proponents of the extinction mode that seem less inclined to argue the moral imperative of birth dynamics, and place the concern where a lot of them are majorly concerned with, the numbers game.
Note: Where do Abortion clinics predominate, and who predominates in the artificlal fertliization industry, as other examples of the numbers game. So my instincts as to how the abortion debate will be resolved will be that abortions will probably be outlawed in "red " states, but widely available in "Blue" states. That is, Roe v Wade will be modified in this mannner, but not banned out right.
"And I could less what coservatives or liberal have to say to the matter." You are interested however in what liberal and conservative women have to say aten't you? "My concern is how to remedy the moral conundrum we find ourselves in now." That's super that you want to nose your way into womens lives. Sure, come right in, my womb is open to the public. Yep. Open house. As a taxpayer, yes I am interested in their take on taking responsibilty for pregnancy prevention!. Also, I'd like to hear what they say.about, let's say taking a pledge that, "They will be personally reponsible for Pregnancy Prevention" measures, and moreover, we will not fool around with a knucklehead who is not willing to do so either. This way so I won't have to resort to an abortion, but on rare occasions. For me, I took a pledge to my wife when we maarried that I would not stray. So, no to to your womb.
As a taxpayer, yes I am interested in their take on taking responsibilty for pregnancy prevention!.You shouldn't have said you weren't interested, them. Collectively, I'm interested in LAW. I'm not interested in anyone else's morals. I'm only interested in mine because as they say, you can't legislate morality. They've recently tried Committee on Government Reform: The Content of Federally Funded Abstinence-Only Education Programs (PDF)Failed miserably. Texas, one of the most "moral" and "anti-abortion" states around, has high teen STD and pregnancy rates. If your concern is morality, you need to deal in morality, not law. Law has nothing to do with morality...never has, never will. Look in this society, where it seems, increasingly, that what passes as entertainment is, largely, degeneracy that has evolved into a cesspool of ignorance and filth. So for me, it is idiocy to promote abstinence alone. And obviously, no one can legislate morality. Purportedly, that's what church and family is for. And lord knows, we do go to church!
My concern is that, we, as a community, "Gives America her Conciousness" in matters of social justice, etc. That ''we" as African Americans, are, seemingly, the most socially conservative group, according to some surveys.Therefore, to have Black women undergo the seemingly excessive number of abortion that is extremely disproportionate to their number in this population is astonishing. Further as our collective historical narrative bears witness to with "these men and their laws" characterizing us as 3/5ths human, enacting fugitive slave laws, enforcing racial segregation, then giving us some measure of citizenship does indicate some measure of morality, or lack thereof, depending on the historical time referenced. Therefore, To suggest that morality does not flavor our laws, ever, in any circumstance, defies reality.
"I dunno if elective abortion, as a method of contraception, as it is practice now predominantly, in the US..." Abortion is a medical procedure, surgery if you will and to suggest that women use it as a means of birth control is hostile and indicates a disdain for females. I would like to know how you arrived at the conclusion that abortion as a means of birth control is very popular. I have personally never read a single study that supports your statement. "in light of the wide availability of contraceptive measures for pregnancy prevention." Birth control methods as you know do not come with an absolute guarantee. Then there are the women of child bearing age who are in abusive relationships and their reproduction is controlled by the abuser. "yet our women" Its apparent that that you have a sense of entitlement concerning women which is why convincing you that abortion is about womens bodies is difficult. You believe you have some ownership over women. I find that position particularly remarkable coming from a member of a historically oppressed group because commandeering a womans womb and sexual autonomy can be likened to slavery. It is an act of dominance that shows little respect or concern for the individual. "At some point we wll have to address this matter forth rightly." At some point humanity has to have a collective unanimous ephifany that as long as women are opppressed oppresion of others will continue. "My concern is how to remedy the moral conundrum we find ourselves in now" If you were as concerned as you say you are you would not be entirely dis-interested in discussing abortion. No, thats not an invitation either. I would prefer that you not cross the threshold into my inner sanctum, I'm just pointing out to you how you invalidate your own argument by contradicting yourself. "Well for me, the choice ta women make to have an abortion " It has nothing to do with you. "...there's a plethora of preventative pregnancy choices, to the extent, that it makes a mockery of the notion of "Personal Choice" So even though abortion is a choice it besmirches other birth control options? I guess its the black sheep of choices . "therefore, it goes that it is not her personal choice because she is making a choice for the baby, the father of the child, the presumed grandparents, and many others too numerous to address here. " I hate to pull out the nazi card but unfortunately hitler/nazis did not believe that people owned their bodies, the state did. Under hitler women were forced through coercion and brow beating to breed breed breed. Many of those children ended up in foster care. Hitler did have some women executed for daring to act as though their bodies were their own. A woman is accountable to no one concerning what she is growing in her body. "abortion on demand" The other day I was in a fast food restuarnt where I waited so long in line that I started to day dream.When I finally got to the counter and was asked for my order I blurted out one abortion to go! I guess I'm just so used to getting abortions all the time as a means of birth control that I forgot I was not at my local abortionist. What exactly is abortion on demand? ", in the end, IT IS ALL of our concern on many levels. As fathers, husbands, grandfathers, uncles, cousins, etc. You name it!" This sounds a little to village elderish for my liking. Whats next, taking out proof of unmarried womens virginity to the village elders. Dont fundamentalist muslim males all control their female family members reproductive lives and sexuality? "You can't say you are against the death penalty but for abortion." Yes, you can. There is not a consenus as to when life begins but rather an on-going debate. A fetus which relies on the mother to create it cannot live outside of the womb. And what of the soul? When does a soul enter the fetus? In the moments just before birth? Immediately after birth? "They would include, as examples, the proper use of pregancy prevention measures, abstinence outside of marriage" Again you show your disdain for females. How likely is it that a woman would not know that the pills for birth control are taken orally and that a man does not know how to use a condom? Abstinence is not a new idea but a very old one and as evidenced by the massive world population it has never been an effective message. At what point do you think it may occur to people it just is not going to work? "Please do not confuse me with the nazi-like right wing nuts here in the US. My take on these matters of birth politics has a more nationalistic..." Hitler was a jingoist and his views on abortion were in fact born of nationalism. Thank you. You made my point quite well on Abortion, oops! "extinction on demand" I predict it will be reversed in the 'red' states (Euphemism for States or communities where whites predominante. Already we have witnessed a decline in electic abortions by white women, by over 400, 000, since its peak period a decade ago. So either they've figured out how to use "Pregnancy Prevention measures" or they've taken the hype over the coming masses of colored folk (Brown/hispanics especially) displacing them seriously, and have "adjusted") But don't worry angie, they'll keep it "Extinction on demend" available for you.
oops! I forgot Angie. Check out Professor Dorothy Roberts's Book:" Killing The Black Body. Race, Reproduction, and the Meaning of Liberty."
Hmmmm?
CDC Abortion surveillance data:
Black women=7% of population but undergo ~33% of all abortions.
White women ~35% of popualtion but undergo ~40% o f all abortions.
When you consider only reproductive age women the data is even more staggering.
Yep. However, the problem is me for pointing out these scary numbers and their implications. Go Figure!
However, the problem is me for pointing out these scary numbersThat's not a problem. Yeah. Just being rhetorical. But what I'd like to see is for Blacks to take a hard look at what is happening. It is nothing short of a genocide of sorts, in my view. I mean you can attempt to reason as to what causes so many Black women to have to undergo elective abortions in the first place. Is it socioeconomic? Is it convenience? Is it because abortion clinics are so widely available in our community? Is it because they have not figured out how to used other Pregnancy Preventative measures safely and effectively? Is it because they believed Margaret Sanger's description of Black motherhood abilities, or rather, lack thereof? Is it because they are just plain lazy and ignorant?
There must be an explanation for such an excessive number of abortions being performed on one group of women, of the many groups in existence in the US, in these times? And it is ridiclous to try to justify such an obscene statistic!!!!!!!!!! Just reading a report and book review on "Eugenic Sterilzations" in Black women specifically, just ending here in the US in the 1970s. In fact, Nazi Germany copied the US's Eugenic Program Pre-WWll. I suspect with abortion today doing such a good job of wiping us out, Hitler would probably copy this too!
"Thank you. You made my point quite well on Abortion, oops! "extinction on demand"" Why the quotation marks around extenction on demand when it was you who said it not me. No, I didn't prove your point, whatever it may be, at all. In order for your argument to be true, that black women are pawns in a racial extermination plan those having abortions would have to be monumemtally stupid and gulliable. Which is something you pretty much suggest any how. "And it is ridiclous to try to justify such an obscene statistic!!!!!!!!!! " Again you discourage anyone from countering you making it even more clear you want to talk and not listen. I have to believe that extermination by way of abortion would have to take an interminably long time. You might look towards africa where its being done the good old fashioned way, starvation. Seems that the global "gag" rule imposed by bush has resulted in an explosion of children being born and then dying in afraica. Black children. "However, the problem is me for pointing out these scary numbers" Oh, and I agree that this is not the problem. Hello Angie. Have you read Professor Robert's book yet? At some point you are going to have to counter my argument with real data. Not name calling and bullshit! And as far as the situation African situation you mentioned, it is indeed tragic. But the problem I have with your bringing this up is that most of the countries you speak of, are run by Blacks not by BUSH. That, unless you believe that GW is a "Superman" of sorts, then obviously "other" Blacks, in Africa, in charge, are starving their own folks, for whatever petty political reason. And I suspect, in light history in the post colonial era, they have been doing this for quit a few years. That is, the mess over there predates GW. I obviuosly understand the geopolitical machinations that could create the climate for the pathologic leadership we see in too many African countries, but at some point these people are going to have to figure a way out their mess. We did it in the US, which is why so many of them, Africans, are high-tailing to get over here, in the first place! Finally, stop the name calling and provide some data. Like, show me the white birth data, in actual numbers, along with their abortion data for the last say 15 years. as expected, the gub'nah signed it into law....., Yep. I guess he, the gub-nah and citizens of the state, have read Pat Buchanan's "The Decline of the West " too.
Aside from the usual fundamentalist bible-banging on the issue of abortion, the folks in South Dakota obviously are struggling to contend with negative population growth. Banning abortions, however, won't do a damn thing to fix the problem. In fact, the new legislation may hasten the departure of fertile young women who have no desire to relinquish control of their wombs to the State. In fact, the new legislation may hasten the departure of fertile young women who have no desire to relinquish control of their wombs to the State. You're right. How can we fix that? No exception for rape and incest is a start. Now if we give the foetus full state citizenship rights, then we can rule the mother needs the child's permission to take it out of the state. State consititutions are much easier to I think actually giving a crap about women would reduce abortions more than laws. If women knew that having a baby wouldn't ruin their life, and they wouldn't be public enemy #1 for having a baby, yea, they'd have more babies. But you can't expect black women to not have abortions(remember: many of us are in the South were there's abstinence only, not actual sex ed, not to mention not every woman is close to a Planned Parenthood, and b.c. can be expensive when a lot of us are poor anyway) if there's no reliable childcare that doesn't cost an arm and a leg, the woman will have to work two and three jobs to survive, basically, don't attack women, who own their bodies,btw,- attack the situation they are in,ok?
Zimbabwe provides a glimpse of what's in store here just beyond that signpost up ahead...,
basically, don't attack women, who own their bodies,btw,- attack the situation they are in,ok?That "right to choose" is a soon to be bygone artifact of the fin d'siecle industrial oil economy. Back in the good old days, when human peasant labor was the basis of wealth, the landed feudal gentry colluded with the church and the barbar chirurgeons to carry out a pogrom against women with abortifacient knowledge (witches) Such pleas as the one above are moot - because they utterly fail to consider the actual situation that we are all in. The rural agrarian Dakotans are getting ready for the clampdown. Are you? THERMODYNAMIC DEATH OF DEMOCRACY IN LESS THAN 20 YEARS Imagine having a motor scooter with a five-gallon tank, but the nearest gas station is six gallons away. You can not fill your tank with trips to the gas station because you burn more than you can bring back -- it's impossible for you to cover your overhead (the size of your bankroll and the price of the gas are irrelevant). You might as well put your scooter up on blocks because you are "out of gas" -- forever. CENTRAL BANKERS CAN NOT PRINT ENERGY! If a country must spend more-than-one unit of energy to produce enough goods and services to buy one unit of energy, it will be impossible to cover the overhead (e.g., Zimbabwe). At that point, every country's economic machine is "out of gas" -- money and common stocks worthless -- forever. See ENERGETIC LIMITS TO GROWTH, by Jay Hanson, ENERGY Magazine, Spring, 1999 As long as the lights are still on, that has nothing to do with abortion.
The church now inaccurately masquerades its official position as having "always" disallowed and opposed abortion. The medieval church was galvanized not by abortion per se but by the midwives who carried out the abortions themselves. The handbook of the Inquisition stated: "No one does more harm to the Catholic faith than midwives." Kramer, Heirich, & Sprenger, James. Malleus Maleficarum, Pg. 66.
It has everything to do with abortion. Your inability to see this fact - doesn't mean that it isn't so. While all the pro-choice reaction on this thread prattles on about men asserting control over women's wombs, none of it posits a rational motive for seeking to do so. Your denial of the energetic backdrop for everything taking place in the American body politic at this moment - undermines the utility of your analysis. Though I suppose I'll be admonished for saying so - and not adhereing to a blindered and quite shallow thread "logic" - the question of energy and white men's historical behavioural relationship to energy is foundational to the racial subject matter that often serves as your stock-in-trade. Or hasn't it occurred to you that "by any means necessary" applied to black gold in the 17th century;  in precisely the same way it applies to black gold today? Legislation pending in the Missouri house intends the following;
■ Deny alimony to ex-spouses who live with a boyfriend or girlfriend. ■ Ban all abortions. ■ Provide tax credits for contributions that help kids in lousy school districts to attend private schools. ■ Propose a constitutional amendment guaranteeing the right to pray in schools and on other public property. ■ Allow pharmacists, insurance companies, doctors and hospitals to deny treatment if the procedure or medication offends their moral values. ■ Propose a constitutional amendment to allow the Ten Commandments to be displayed on public property. Abortion ‘purists’ in charge South Dakota’s law would make felons out of doctors who perform nearly any abortion. The government would replace women as moral decision-makers. And it would trump doctors as medical decision-makers. Clampdown coming and you don't know why....., Though I suppose I'll be admonished for saying soNo, but I remove the Abu Ghraib pictures. I know wherfe to get them if I want them on my site...and I don't. Clampdown coming and you don't know whyAnd you can't explain how the price of oil drives abortion legislation. Proximity doesn't equal reality...sticking two links in the same post explains nothing.
I don't give a damn about the price of oil. Black gold is fungible in historically demonstrable terms. The clampdown requires the maximum possible number of good ole boys to enforce, and with less and less 21st century black gold to go around, the old fashioned version will be coming back into vogue with a vengeance. Or do you expect a rabbit to miraculously pop out of a hat to fund the public education of untermenschen whom everybody knows to be far better suited for employment on a prison industrial plantation? LaShawn Barber gots nothing on the sociobiologists who are perfectly capable of proving in the most arduously scientistic terms that 17th century black gold is better suited for its original purpose than for any fantasy deployment for which it's proven itself ineducable...,
Neither you or any of the soulful prattlers can explain the mythic urge to control wombs, while for me, it reduces to simple, historically demonstrable, sociobiological husbandry.....,
Right. Can't explain it.
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Not even an exception in the case of rape or incest. That really reveals the agenda of the radical right, and thier attitudes toward women.