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Submitted by Prometheus 6 on January 3, 2007 - 7:03pm.
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...get a serious answer.

The question is

At a time when the mainstream media was incapable of raising any alarm against Chief Justice John Roberts and Justice Samuel Alito, two men whose demonstrable hostility to Affirmative Action and equal opportunity threaten to destroy the flimsy fabric of racial reconciliation and reverse the gains of the last 50 years, why is Barack Obama necessary to heal the wounds and absolve the sins of a deeply racist and imperialist nation like America?

If you listed to the Senator's speeches you will see a common theme. He runs sequetially through the various sufferage movements the nation has endured as though each came to a clean, elegant closure. He tells mainstream folks the serious problems are over and it's all a matter of incremental adjustments.

That means they are ethically and morally clean and can focus on themselves.

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Submitted by Nanette on January 3, 2007 - 10:56pm.

I've not paid much attention to Obama (too tired of politicians, for the moment), but the more I hear from people who do, the less I like him. Well, some of the more religious apparently believe he's the anti christ... them, I'm less inclined to pay attention to. 

 Not too long ago I was thinking that Hillary and Obama might as well run on a ticket together, just to get it over with (non white male president, whichever one of them was at the top of the ticket), but I think I've changed my mind. While I don't think Hillary will be nearly as bad as she is now when actually in office (I could be very wrong), the entire Obama and "see? racism is all done with and in the past" thing, which he actually facilitates, would be extremely damaging. 

 

Submitted by cnulan on January 4, 2007 - 12:21pm.
Submitted by Prometheus 6 on January 5, 2007 - 6:46am.
Every time I see that picture I get the impulse to replace his head with the head of a penis with his face photoshopped onto it.
Submitted by Temple3 on January 5, 2007 - 9:34am.
magic bullet...the silver bullet of all trinkets...the holy grail of lapel pins...the US flag...and he's getting rubbed up for it by a prezeedont. quell sorpreez!! georgie boosh likes zee rub, yes?
Submitted by Temple3 on January 5, 2007 - 9:40am.
Destruction, Terrah, and Mayhem! - LL Cool J, Mama Said Knock You Out.

All of which has me thinking about Obamasamacaucdrama anew.  The electorate is largely delusional when it comes to "race."  His victory may make them more delusional, but I don't know that it would outweigh some potential benefits.  I would assert that the issue of being ready to work with Obamasamacaucdrama is critical because he will be constrained...but the better you are, the easier his choices will be.  We strengthen his position by our preparedness, vigilance and diligence with respect to our agenda. - And that would be the same for any politician.
Submitted by Prometheus 6 on January 5, 2007 - 10:08am.

I hear you...I'm more concerned about his support of us because he's got a LOT of support.

I propose a trade: he support our issues (and I don't care if he names us or not in the process), we support him. 

Submitted by Temple3 on January 5, 2007 - 12:18pm.
Sounds like something worth pursuing. Quid pro afro.
Submitted by ubstu34 on January 5, 2007 - 2:37pm.
To what extent is this phenomenon of being "post-racial" a 21st century version of "passing"?  Are Obama and others like him reminiscent of the protagonist in James Weldon Johnson's Autobiography of an Ex-Colored Man?  Is Obama's potential political success in the future contingent upon his becoming a contemporary version of an "ex-colored man"? 
Submitted by Prometheus 6 on January 5, 2007 - 3:14pm.

I tried to remember enough details to fake an answer (bones creaking...).

I just keep looking forward to what 'post-racial' means to humans...Black folks will have to replace "Lift Every Voice and Sing" with "We Wear The Mask" set to music.

Submitted by ptcruiser on January 5, 2007 - 6:35pm.
How about "Smiling Faces"?
Submitted by ptcruiser on January 5, 2007 - 6:38pm.
Senator Obama is for the Democratic Party and the liberal left what Colin Powell was for Republicans and the conservative right. 
Submitted by Prometheus 6 on January 5, 2007 - 8:18pm.
Submitted by ubstu34 on January 5, 2007 - 8:23pm.

I think I am going to have to reread some material concerning these turn of the 20th century figures to get a better sense of the verisimilitude concerning contemporary discussions of race.  Johnson would certainly identify with some one like Obama--a light skinned black man who moved with ease among white elites.  But he might also fear that Obama is in danger of selling his birthright for a "mess of pottage" like the protagonist in his famous book.  

P6 ...  the dichotomy you present between "Lift Every Voice and Sing" and "We Wear the Mask" is an apt representation of the two options that Americans are faced with in how they approach race.  I think you hit it right on the nail.  How would you say Obama compares to leaders like Walter White or Roy Wilkins who symbolically carried the mantle but routinely ignored the concerns and will of the people?                

Submitted by Prometheus 6 on January 5, 2007 - 9:27pm.

How would you say Obama compares to leaders like Walter White or Roy Wilkins who symbolically carried the mantle but routinely ignored the concerns and will of the people?

I'm going to be comparing him with Chuck Schumer more than White or Wilkins. In fairness you have to remember he specifically said he wasn't going to be the Senator from Black America.

I've waxed less than enthusiastic about the likelihood of the Senator being an activist on Black folk's behalf, and he hasn't made a step in that direction. But I haven't bitched about it because I remember the very first article I read about him.

They say voters should not expect a fiery leader who pounds his fists, but rather, a measured collaborator similar to the late Paul Simon, who represented Illinois in the Senate from 1985 to 1997.

"He knows why he's in public life," said David Axelrod, a political consultant who works for Obama.

"A fiery leader who pounds his fists" seemed such specific symbolism it caught my attention. And Illinois also sent Carol Moseley Braun to the Senate too. It's like somehow the state wants or needs to make this gesture and they'd really rather have a guy that don't scare the shit out of people.

I just checked the population of Illinois by race...in my opinion. only blatant incompetence Sen. Obama dying in his seat if he chooses to stick with being a Senator. If he is a prominent Senator my judgment would probably be that he did no harm and had secondary effects that could be useful.