The once and future sellout

Submitted by Prometheus 6 on May 26, 2006 - 7:44am.
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Michael Meyers continues apace. Unfortunately.

There are people who will always have a special place in your heart. Michael Meyers has one in my spleen. This is strictly from personal memory but I believe his New York Civil Rights Coalition was the first organization to call itself a civil rights organizations while actively opposing civil rights for Black folks (and there is no error in that phrasing). It was so successful it lead to things like the Clear Skies Initiative.

Stop the Black Only Treatment is typical of his efforts.

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Submitted by ptcruiser on May 26, 2006 - 9:31am.

I think that Michael Meyers (and his late mentor, Dr. Kenneth Clark) is so committed to his vision of racial integration that anything that deviates, even in the slightest degree, from what he believes is appropriate and correct is suspect and deserving of condemnation. Meyers, in short, is not a social thinker and theorist but a fanatic.

What Meyers has forgotten is that given the multitude of issues and problems faced by African Americans that there can never be one true way to address and begin to resolve, or at least ameliorate, these difficulties. Meyers continually wants to substitute his own social engineering ideas and concepts instead of pursuing practical and pragmatic solutions.

A less fanatical person would support the sort of programs that Myers so roundly condemns not because he or she believes that these steps represent the one and true approach but, because, they are incremental steps whose effectiveness can be measured and judged by, in part, the number of black men who successfully complete the programs and receive degrees.

Contrary to Meyers' claims programs of this type are in the best tradition of American culture and inventiveness. I think that such eminent black figures as Dr. George Washington Carver or Dr. Charles Drew, both of whom were expert physical scientists who greatly valued practical experimentation, would recognize these programs as experiments or pilot projects designed to test a hypothesis. Meyers (and Dr. Clark) would prefer to condemn the hypothesis even before any data is generated. This is not social science but superstition and magical thinking

Submitted by Ourstorian on May 26, 2006 - 11:00am.

"What Meyers has forgotten is that given the multitude of issues and problems faced by African Americans that there can never be one true way to address and begin to resolve, or at least ameliorate, these difficulties."

Excellent points and analysis, PT. I always find your remarks to be incisive, thoughtful and on point. Moreover, you consistently present your views minus the vitriol and invective that often dominate my posts. My first inclination in responding to Meyers' latest idiocy is simply to call him a sick ass "assimilado," or an interlocutor (see definition #2) in a twenty-first century coon show featuring Ward Connerly and Larry Elder as end men.

I want to be more like you when I grow up.

Submitted by Prometheus 6 on May 26, 2006 - 11:10am.
Moreover, you consistently present your views minus the vitriol and invective that often dominate my posts.
As long as its the spice rather than the main course... 
Submitted by Ourstorian on May 26, 2006 - 12:37pm.

I try to keep my eyes on the prize. But I have to admit, most of the time I am one angry mofo.

Submitted by Prometheus 6 on May 26, 2006 - 12:46pm.
But I have to admit, most of the time I am one angry mofo.

That's valid.

I learned to use it as fuel rather than presentation (though you'll note I'm not above letting folks know I'm annoyed). 

Submitted by ptcruiser on May 26, 2006 - 5:59pm.
Ourstorian - I must truly be bent because I don't regard your posts as being vitriolic or filled with invective. I think hard about what you write and sometimes you are so on point that you make me laugh right out loud. Laughter is always good medicine. 
Submitted by Prometheus 6 on May 26, 2006 - 6:25pm.
I must truly be bent because I don't regard your posts as being vitriolic or filled with invective.

That's 'cause you're mad too.

Most of us are, about something or other. 

Submitted by Ourstorian on May 26, 2006 - 9:24pm.

"Laughter is always good medicine."

It gets me down the road.

 

 

 

 

Submitted by ptcruiser on May 26, 2006 - 9:57pm.
Yes, P6, you're right. To paraphrase Paul Simon, I am still crazy after all these years. Still crazy. 
Submitted by Kim Pearson on May 29, 2006 - 3:49pm.

James Baldwin did say that "to be Black and aware in America is to be in a constant state of rage." Price Cobb says it's time for us to move from rage to entitlement. So far, I'm not finding the two mutually exclusive.

"The arc of the universe is long, but it bends toward justice." I need to believe that right about now...

Submitted by Prometheus 6 on May 29, 2006 - 6:12pm.

I think of it as raw rather than rage...like every eigth person rubs you with coarse sandpaper as they go by.

Submitted by Temple3 on May 30, 2006 - 12:14pm.

Enough!!! LOL
Submitted by Prometheus 6 on May 30, 2006 - 7:02pm.
Why laughter?