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Submitted by Prometheus 6 on April 15, 2006 - 8:11pm.
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Cobb is (back? still?) blogging, but on Typepad nowadays. So I have to retract one snarky line in the comments (find it yourself).

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Submitted by ptcruiser on April 16, 2006 - 10:15am.
I recall the line but I'll let it pass because it wasn't directed at me.  I went to his new site and after reading his entry titled "Knowledge is Pain" I ran as fast as I could to get back here.
Submitted by Prometheus 6 on April 16, 2006 - 10:37am.
He takes Charles Murray seriously.

I don't know...
Submitted by ptcruiser on April 16, 2006 - 11:37am.
Forget about Charles Murray. He takes himself too seriously.
Submitted by Prometheus 6 on April 16, 2006 - 12:06pm.
I'm actually okay with that. Maxima mea culpa, know what I mean?

In the same way I could have been a drug dealer, I could have been a Black Republican. And I'm not the judge of course, but as long as he writes as a Republican rather than a Black Republican (i.e., claim to represent them, not me) I'd only have the issues with himn I have with any other Republican rhetoritician.
Submitted by Cobb on April 16, 2006 - 4:25pm.
Ahh good. It was getting lonely ranked down at somewhere like 500,000th in Technorati. Spread the word.

Since you guys pride yourself at your addiction to reality, I wonder if you might do the world a favor and document the extent to which Black Republicanism is a 'cottage industry'. It's a myth that has legs and I think the burden of proof lies with those for whom keeping the lie alive benefits. In other words, this collective in particular. Then again, I can't blame you if you don't bother.

I was going to do it myself based on something I read over at Dell Gines, but it was basically all Sowell's salary. I don't think it's worth the trouble. My basic argument lies somewhere along the analogies of what percentage of the NAACP is getting its money from whitefolks, and it's black progressives who obsess about what whitefolks are doing anyway. I'm not quite so bored that I'd want to research that piddly thang.

As for Charles Murray, I think the 10Gs idea is at least as compelling as Reparations and more likely to happen. You'll never find me defending much of anything out of The Bell Curve and I probably have more counter-arguments published on my websites than the combined lot of you. I don't happen to believe that the American Enterprise Institute is a white supremacist organization as some have suggested, and that's about all there is to it.

Yes I take myself too seriously. Uppity negro and all. I admit it. I've been in this online writing game for going on what 14 years? But I think that using the name my parents gave me, in public, puts me in a class of integrity that few of you have. Say what you like behind pseudonyms my courageous brothers, but you'll always know where to find me. In the light of day.
Submitted by Prometheus 6 on April 16, 2006 - 5:24pm.
Ahh good. It was getting lonely ranked down at somewhere like 500,000th in Technorati. Spread the word.

Don't I always? Seriously. Think about it.

I wonder if you might do the world a favor and document the extent to which Black Republicanism is a 'cottage industry'. It's a myth that has legs and I think the burden of proof lies with those for whom keeping the lie alive benefits.

That would be these guys. Talk to them.

it's black progressives who obsess about what whitefolks are doing anyway.

I will admit they are as concerned about white folks as Black Conservatives are, which is to say a bit obsessed.

My basic argument lies somewhere along the analogies of what percentage of the NAACP is getting its money from whitefolks,

I'd feel better if you'd just said you were joking.

A question from Earl Dunovant to Michael Bowen: If Cobb posted straight Republican politics with no racial implications, do you think your traffic would increase? If Prometheus 6 did the same for Democrats, mine would, I'm pretty sure.

And how would it look for me to accuse anyone of arrogance? It would take more arrogance than even I have.

I'll say this, though: I've read most of your archives; You got skills and knowledge...but so does David Horowitz, and I read stuff from his liberal days too. I'm not putting you anywhere near his class...I wouldn't put you near Barber's class. But only a fool would fail to notice the change...and only a bigger fool would see it and pretend it's not there.


Submitted by ptcruiser on April 16, 2006 - 5:41pm.
Michael,

You know what my given and surnames are. You can use them anytime you please. In fact, you can go back to your post and insert my name. It's okay with me. I'm not on the FBI's most wanted list. Anybody who is looking for me can find me. I don't care about you being an uppity Negro. We're all uppity Negroes right along through here. By the way, Michael, it's not your lack of integrity that bothers me at times.
Submitted by ptcruiser on April 16, 2006 - 6:00pm.
Black Republicans should check out what white Libertarians have to say about the civil rights history of the party of Lincoln.
I'm not taking sides in this argument but since Black Republicans are obsessed about refuting the civil rights history of the Democratic Party, which I am not inclined to defend for any reason, I thought it might be a good idea for Black Republicans to take a look at what folks who are even more rabidly pro-capitalist than they are say about the GOP's civil rights record.


Submitted by Cobb on April 17, 2006 - 12:21am.
I don't know about what it would take to increase my traffic vis a vis content. I can't say that I'm particularly intune with what it takes more than buying ads, which I'm not personally interested in but would do it for the Brotherhood. I say what I think I need to say in the context of what nobody else is saying. Odd that. It's a personality trait, no doubt.

As for other strange aspects of my personality, I have a very difficult time putting written ideas with faces and names, so it's very frustrating for me not to see pictures, names and philosophical abstracts. To the extent that I believe in electoral politics I find it an absolute necessity that candidates have the human touch. So in that my big gripe with the high quality discourse that transpires at P6 is that black progressives have no home in any party or elected officials,  the entire enterprise stinks of underground hiphop. Call it Vanguard's Disease. All manifesto, no men. The absolute nut and extent of my differences with you folks, other than the odd jab that actually does get under my thick skin, is that very gap between your intellectual production and electoral politics. I am genuinely concerned that the death of progressive politics adds to the arrogance of Conservatism. We conservatives have enough problems as it is. Most importantily, I cannot abide subversion, especially considering how open and free we are here.

So please discount the jab. It is not your personal integrity I question, but the aspect of subversion implied in a sustained intellectual insurgency, complete with pseudonyms and -ati,  that demonstrates little faith in the only real parties we have. I have an ethos that says squeaky wheels should be bearing more weight and so I have some measure of intolerance for ideological bickering.

I have actually been invited by Horowitz to switch and I'm sure he'd jump all over me if he knew what I've been doing the past three years. But I'm actually not inclined to jump on that bandwagon, although I still am on the mailing list.

I have no intention on being crypto and I encourage your criticism. I don't mean to be any more arrogant than I am.

Was I joking about the NAACP? Sorta. I mean dollars just aren't white to me. So 'taking white money' just doesn't register as a real argument.
Submitted by Prometheus 6 on April 17, 2006 - 9:56am.

So please discount the jab.

Done...after all, I am the one who normally gets under your skin.

There's truth in what you say abour Black progressives having no home. But given that there's no political party or civil institution that hasn't thrown Black folks under the bus at some point that doesn't bother me much.

And here's the other thing: both parties are alliances of groups whose interests overlap rather than coincide...that's what makes them seperate groups.

It is not your personal integrity I question, but the aspect of subversion implied in a sustained intellectual insurgency, complete with pseudonyms and -ati,  that demonstrates little faith in the only real parties we have.

What else can you expect from an intellectual insurgency created because we've been ill-served on all sides?

Things have beginnings, middles and ends...and there's no point in criticizing a sprout for not being an oak tree.